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I don't understand how these 2000-ish era Omegas have increased in value already.

If I had that sort of cash, I'd maybe be looking for an all-original Ranchero or similar though.

Because Omega have made a conscious effort to move up market with co axial movements across the board , what they thought of more " low rent " previously have appreciated as well . Nothing wrong with pre co axial at all . You can no longer buy a quartz seamaster , entry level for that now is circa £2700 . Older stuff holding its value from new very well .

Result. . Lovely watch .

I know , sorry . Left proper camera at home . Am on holiday now and watch has gone for service / restoration . Google speedmaster professional mark 2 , find the picture of the best one and that is how it will look when it's done . If not better !

As promised , sorry about iPad pics

If anybodies interested , I will have an Omega Speedmaster Professional mark 2 from the '70s up for grabs soon . Will be about £ 1200 ish by the time is restored , with a full 12 month warranty . Very original on stock bracelet . Will put " before " pics up tomoro . Comes with original ( rough ) box but no papers . Google it , is a 70's gem !

Send it to accurist , but in my experience from when we dealt with them years ago parts become obsolete very quickly .

This is starting to turn into a Mac vs PC, Nikon vs Canon, console vs computer, helmet thread style pointless shouting of opinions debate.

Yes , I am gonna shut up about Japanese watches before it degenerates into hair pulling and name calling .

Whilst I appreciate your argument I also think that the Grand Seiko is for the true watch fan who appreciates the true qualities as opposed to the "look what I am wearing" brigade.

One thing is for sure you won't get a G Seiko in the genuine fake stores in Turkey.

I don't think my IWC pilot shout's " look what I am wearing " or my speedmaster professional . But granted the two platinum daytonas we bought in Basel for stock are a tiny bit lairy .....

Well I think 2grand for a quartz grand seiko or 4grand for a mechanical is a squillion euros . Not all Basel is about silly stuff , the majority is about what established manufacturers are doing new at normal prices . And unlike a lot of " trade " shows Basel is open to the paying public . Ok you need an appointment thru the trade to get onto the stands and it is expensive to get in .

All I know is in all the times I've been to the Basel watch fair with work I have never seen a queue of people trying to get near the seiko stand . And not one of my collectors has one . Technically superior , ok not gonna argue but better made not in the same league , look at the quality of the bracelets .

But one thing that is either good or bad depending how you see it , is that a " classic " Rolex , or Omega is always going to hold it's money , but you buy one of the expensive grand seikos and you wont be able to give it away . Now even if you believe that Japanese mechanical technology is better than swiss ( which not many people do ) is that just a triumph of marketing over common sense ?

With regards to older swiss brands , there are so many supposed no name brands we have never heard of in the UK particularly from the 1960's and 70's . Early 1990's Oris pointer dates and big crowns , Certina . All different all equally nice ...

I wasn't being judgemental about it I just wanted to get a perspective on why peoples boats were floated that way . And all valid points put forward by the way .
And I reject them all ! ( only joking , each to their own )

You will have to explain the appeal to me sorry , really dont get the whole seiko and / or junghans thing going on . There are so many very very reasonable older swiss pieces crying out .

That was a uk dial ,now discontinued , same era as the yellow and red " Schumaker " dials .

How much ? Very nice . Not a moon watch tho ( sorry ! )

Fahrgestell if after a speedmaster . Moon watch . Seriously the only one to have . I bought a new one again recently , had one a few years ago but sold when I was doing a lot of trading privately , classic piece . But any speedmaster has heritage . Pm me if you want a price on a new one .

Tenderloin , that Vacheron is effing gorgeous . Ref the service I agree with Bodieanddoyle with regards to swiss time services , very good and I don't think expensive . I use 'em at work all the time . There's another good workshop in Tring I know them as Hertfordshire Horologists , but they also have another " retail " name . They looked after my '66 IWC cal 89 and restored an old Girard Perrigaux I had .

That nomos is fantastic .

Anybody thinking of buying a snide or " homage " watch should be ashamed of themselves !
Oh and I have one of those IWC Portugeeezers as above coming in as a part ex next week if anyone interested , wont be cheap but less spiteful than new by some way .

buy some cane creek scr 5 off the bay

Had those brake hoods on my Singlecross . Ugly as sin and really uncomfortable . First thing I changed .

No , got seven stores , Abingdon and Thame in Oxfordshire . Reading and Windsor in Berks and two stores in Ipswich . Plus a diamond shop at Bicester village .

Pm me for prices / specifics , anybody . Got a very good independent horologist for repairs on older bits as well , tho he doesn't do seiko or anything Russian !

Fahrgestall , look for Robertgatwardjewellers.com , website is in progress but still looks good .