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aidan [quote]tynan [quote]aidan renan.....in regards to what you said i think there are bigger and more influential forms of law braking going on.....say for instance illegal wars

I love it when people go on about the invasion of Iraq being illegal :)

Would it be cool with you if it were legal ?

Or is the legality not an issue for you ?

Just the very idea of a 'legal' or 'illegal' war makes me laugh, kind of like someone complaining about a rape they witnessed that broke on of the rapists code of conduct (incomplete removal of trousers) and is therefor illegal (as if the correctly carried out 'legal' rape would be better).[/quote]
yeah you're right.....i was going to try and correct myself by writing unjust but personally i dont think war can be just...........anyway slightly off topic :)[/quote]

I am sure you would take little prompting to come up with a war that you would consider 'just' (by your own definition and standard of what 'just' might mean).

A military regime highly aroused on religious fervor invades it's neighbour and sets about the wholesale rape and slaughter of men, women and children, townships are burnt to the ground, people driven out, pyres burn throughout the night piled high with the charred remains of the population.

Would it not be justified, after the usual threats and sanctions have failed to declare war and drive the army back out of the occupied country ?

Would you sit by and watch the Nazis set up the industrial scale gassing of Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals and not fight them on the basis that war cannot be just ?

Any prefix attached to 'war' will always be relative and not absolute, especially when the terms are as vague as 'just', 'unjust', 'illegal' or 'legal'.

If you know what I mean ! :)

I hate Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Sikhism (in fact all superstition) this shit is fucking the world up, it was fine a few years back when religion was like the polite old uncle who you could ignore at Christmas when he went on about the fairies at the bottom of his garden, but when these bronze age beliefs started fueling the current indiscriminate global carnage the gloves came off.

Apologies up front for my cynicism, any promotion of cycling is good with me but . . .

Come on, these prizes are shit, not a single Arrospok on that list:

You could win:

1) your artwork on a poster space in a London Underground station for two weeks in February (provided by ArtBelow)

Ok maybe I was a little too fast to judge, understand what they are offering here, somewhere in the disused ticket hall at Loughton tube station is a 'poster space' with your name on it ! (for two weeks).

2) a place in an exhibition at the Rainbird Gallery in February

Far too specific to my mind, I think what is really meant here is:

a place in an exhibition of some sort at the Rainbird Gallery sometime or other

3) a 1 metre x 1.5 metre art print to take home

Fuck me, they are really committing themselves to this competition !

4) spot prizes including a new bicycle.

I think I know where this might be going: http://www.unipackuk.co.uk/99pence.htm

dogmatic

That, right there, is beautiful !

turpe [quote][cite]Although all other Suginos are JIS, for some reason, 75s are ISO

75s are ISO to meet NJS requirements.

aidan renan.....in regards to what you said i think there are bigger and more influential forms of law braking going on.....say for instance illegal wars

I love it when people go on about the invasion of Iraq being illegal :)

Would it be cool with you if it were legal ?

Or is the legality not an issue for you ?

Just the very idea of a 'legal' or 'illegal' war makes me laugh, kind of like someone complaining about a rape they witnessed that broke on of the rapists code of conduct (incomplete removal of trousers) and is therefor illegal (as if the correctly carried out 'legal' rape would be better).

Section 29J in the religious hatred bill.
epiphenomenalism.
Alcohol
Seretonin.
Endorphins.
Extreme pathos.
Saturated colours.
Humming.

...whats with the brake on the tt of the reminton?

So he can do bar spins ? Just a guess.

Superprecise hang on, why is armourtex good value whilst Vaz is just plain cheapo? what do you mean? is it because Vaz is doing enamel or what?

£60 @ Armourtex = powerdercoated frame = bullet proof + won't fade or 'yellow' with time + no drying time/rapid turn around (24 Hr)

£60 @ Vaz = wet sprayed frame = more colour range.

TobyOne -BoBoB- Nice!

Cheers, some v good suggestions...

No problem ! :)

The scary things is that the big fella is Wayne's dad and the little fella in the black wig and no trousers is actually Wayne.

adoubletap this websites printed on bikes thing needs to be fecking stopped sharpish

Yep, I fucking hate that, it really cheapens the bike, it genuinely puts me off buying a frame.

Just do a prison biro & blade job on yourself in the mirror, when I split up with my ex-girlfriend I did my own, worked out pretty good.

[size=40]£4.95[/size]

I was in oxford street last week and . . .

Carphone whorehouse and phones-for-you (and I suspect others have the same phone) do a couple of very cheap pay as you go phones, one is £4.95 - yes that is no spelling mistake under five quid.

The only thing is you must also buy a £10 top up card at the same time making it £14.95 - but you would have to buy a ten quid top up card anyhow if you want to text/phone.

It looks quite acceptable too, felt good in my hands and is pretty slim.

http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-as-you-go/motorola/f3-blue/

Let's all sum up shall we, who wants to go first ?

MDee Some people on here extremely rude. It can only damage the forum.

Fuck you MDee, you dirty big shit.

big daddy wayne petersmolick // don't sweat it dude

i'm going to have a lie down now as the concept of aidan having a 'meat shake' has given me the vapours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpCcelpvkps

provenrad [quote]aidan right im off to have a meat shake!

^Too much information!
@petersmolick - the thread got derailed! Tynan keeps his beetches in check (whipping sound).[/quote]

I am the bitch who whines at the whiners. :)

termites ?

|³|MA3K That isn't what he is saying tynan, he doesn't want either Tescos, Asda OR some fly-by-night sole-trader trying to flog him stuff in his cosy cafe.

Ignoring that fact that his analogy is largely unrelated to the real world situation (some bike parts have been posted in the classified section of a bike forum) I genuinely love how the argument is set up :)

Cozy/local/cafe(probably fair trade)/amongst friends/having a lovely chat

V

fly-by-night/intruder/sole-trader/forcing knock off beer onto the 'kids' and shattering the warm cozy ambience with his relentless hassling.

(personally if I felt the need to stoop to such demagoguery to bolster an argument I would have at least had someone being raped by the evil foreign (got to be foreign) DVD pusher in the cafe toilets :D :D

Anyhow, back to the real world, (and an actual real situation):
I could have bought my bike parts from one of the big chains or online behemoths like Chainreaction, but I spotted something much better in a thread where the seller was basically being told in no uncertain terms to 'fuck off and don't sell your stuff here' - (he posted a single item that he had in response to someone asking about that very thing) - anyhow through all the venom and moral outrage I got his blog address, bought the parts cheaper than I could have got going to one of the big chains (he only had 6 of the parts so they went pretty quick) - and the seller - in response to the tribal panic at an outsider intruding on their world - agreed not to post again (indeed he has not).

So a few weeks go by and someone else I expect will be looking for the very same thing I was after, he may even make a post like the very one that started the thread I found my parts through - but at least one small scale trader will not be helping this bloke out (and any others already not in the fold will be chased off) pretty much redirecting trade towards the bank accounts of the usual high street/online companies.

This argument is going nowhere as far as I can see, we will all just have to agree to disagree on this one - but you know I am right ;)

edmundane for me, i like supporting my local cornershop and cafe and i like supporting small scale traders. i go into those shops/websites myself. yet i think i'm perfectly normal in feeling a bit intruded if that bloke from the new cornershop from across the road comes into my usual cosy cafe where i chat with my mates to sell me 6 cans of wifebeater for a fiver.

No one is intruding, nor forcing a sale, some bike parts have been posted in the classified section of a bike forum, some people click on the thread as they may have a passing interest in what is for sale, they don't recognise the poster and a kind of tribal morality kicks in.

Fair enough, if you are offended by the sellers audacity at trying to offload some parts without having first joined your gang or got to know you that's fine* for you*, but telling this person to 'fuck off elsewhere' effects those people (like myself) who may be interested in buying some stuff and are not hindered by a suspicion of the motives of people from outside their social group.

I must be honest here, the majority of opinion in this thread seems to be more on the side of what you are saying, so I might just have to accept that this is the way !

:)

Hey ho, it's all good fun, nice pedals by the way.

pj like i said, i don't mind people doing a bit of selling here and there.

just as an observation, if it's a list of NJS stuff as long as your arm, it's unlikely the seller put it on here for altruistic reasons.

"[People] aren't selling us this stuff to do us a favor." has already come up as a response to my view on this, of course this person is not being altruistic, no one has claimed that, certainly not me.

big daddy wayne [quote]tynan [quote]big daddy wayne i am sixteen, going on seventeen...

Stone ?[/quote]

you are eighteen going on nineteen...[/quote]

'Bachelor dandies' ?

vegansdontneedgears i was tryign to think of something bike and sex realted, but couldnt and then they where gone.

You should have just prayed at them.

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Hammo Following on from an earlier thread, what stereotypes do you associate with each bike brand, ie: Condor, Surly, Bob Jackson, Paké and the like.
Just for fun mind....

Bike's are for gays.