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This is what we all need to make our lives safe and complete:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/jan/08/technology.gadgets

Lugtastic but too small for me, sniff sniff

Was going to use Bike Line as recommended here, but LCC who I'm a member of suggested levenes has anyone used them? If not I'll go with Bike Line.
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They rotate in the sense that they are not fixed to the internal nut, but if crushed enough they will pinch down onto said nut enabling the lock to be undone. I still think they're bloody useful, anything can be cut, I carry a hefty abus D lock and ocaissional cable to loop through the front wheel, reality is that if they have the time they can cut the cable, and if they have the tools they can crush the pit lock or cut the abus. Its like having a yale lock on your front door, buy a mortice as well just to make them go onto another easier target.

I'll keep using the pits, with ocaissional extra lock. How many times have you not taken an extra lock to save weight or space?

fair nuff.

Too dangerous. Not going near it unless I think its right, I'm a sucker for a nice pair of lugs...

OK, fair point bolt cutters can crimp the pit lock, but its still easier than riding with two locks. Bottom line if you've got good wheels, saddle etc you're mad to leave them outside anyway. Maybe the truly paranoid should use both?

I'll get measured.
This is what's been tempting me, I absolutely cannot cannot cannot afford it, but hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
http://robertobicicletas.co.uk/trackframes/page25/page25.html

eyebrows you do realise that inner leg needs to hug the crotch

Hmmmm might have to get that measured... ;o
I was simply going by my wearing 34" leg jeans.

MrSmith 34" inside leg, is that a bit short for your height?
i'm 6ft1 and ride a 56(semi compact) as i need the standover but have a 120mm stem and layback post so maybe a 59 will be o.k. with a long stem?

Cheers guys, and yes, short legs and long body. Now I just have to wrestle with my budget/guilt.

Sorry, my jeans fit and I'm too old to be a Hipster. In the absence of a fitting, anyone else got any thoughts?

I'm 6' 5" with a 34" inside leg and so far I've tended to favour quite an upright position. My ideal non track frame size seems to be about a 64cm. I've gathered that track frames kind of come up big, is that because their bottom brackets are higher? I'm trying to resist buying another frame until I've built up the Bob, especially as these few months are ££ a bit slim, however would a track frame in 61.5cm with a 59cm top tube be a good fit? There is one I can't get out of my mind, I like it a lot even though its £££. Would it likely be a good fit?

Cutting to the chase, what is it you are buying? Share the lust with us.

lpg they're not very good..

If you mean that pitlocks are not very good I massively disagree with you, all due respect to your opinion, but bollocks. I'm all ears for a better method of securing axles and stuff, but IMHO they get at least 8/10.

Ooops, not awake, 1 each, sorry.

Tea pots that drip.
Land Rovers.
Scaffolding delivery trucks.

I wonder if those who favour head up or head down (bicycle) riding positions are more prone to problems?

I might be up for this, depends on the date plus healing and then getting fit.
Maybe sticky this?

dogsballs tommy this beats my being introduced as gynaecologist by my old man in greece story!!! hands down!!
Tell us tell us tell us, if its already been told, link? please?

Spotted Turd and ASM as they dropped round the school and said hello. ASM and I got to compare damage, both lucky lucky lucky. Get a warm fuzzy forum feeling.
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Ma3k got his back, I got mine back, there are good people out there, wonderful stuff.

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Not tried long grips like that but normally I'm a fan of hot hot water. Put the grips in hot hot water for at least 5 minutes, then slide them on, maybe with someone adding extra water.