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Turd? Get your lazy skiving daydreaming butt into college and get that essay done.
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the-smiling-buddha track ends allow you to tension the chain

but so do horizontal drops, any other reason?

Post office charge an extra £8 for the pleasure of taking your money. A lot of small sellers are willing to mark value as low or even as a present which reduces the risk of customs opening it and charging you.

the-smiling-buddha
the angle of the seat tube determines where you body needs to be to power into the pedals
for short fast sprints at the track
your body is up forward out of the saddle and over the pedals
this means a steep seat tube
fast acceleration also required at the track means a small rear triangle
if you look at the Cervelo this is why the rear wheel is actualy inside the frame
on steel bikes a steep seat sube with small rear triangle will mean very little clearance between rear wheel and frame
now ride a track bike in traffic
and it is blindingly fast and manoureable over short distance i.e between the lights

OK, that helps, thanks for that, anyone want to explain the reason why so many fetishise track ends, must be more than hispter fashion, no?

OK, dumb question time so don't shoot me:
I understand the handling differences between an out and out track frame and a frame with road bike geometry. Further, a "traditional" road/path frame has more road orientated geometry but track ends, so am I right in thinking that the drops/ends would be the primary difference between a road bike converted to fixed (especially one without lazy geometry) and a traditional road/path (as opposed to track) bike? If this is correct, then will someone explain what the big advantage is with track ends? I'm guessing that with both types tensioning the chain will alter the wheelbase a tiny tiny bit, but that track ends mean that the BB height will stay constant but is there more to it? Cheers.

See if you can get it on your house insurance, you may need to specify value.
Otherwise E&L keep putting brochures in cycling plus. 08449 809 465

A girl with a green metalic fixed minding an orange fixed, each bike had 1 purple deep V (huh?) outside climpsons on broadway market about 10 this morning. Green paint job was sweetness!

If anyone comes across a mac friendly link to the program either as a stream or a download please can they post it here?

OK for the benefit of an east londoner what's the terrain like in RP? If its only 6 miles per lap must be well hilly from the way you guys talk about it.

hippy I have a pair of new size 36
Hippy fat? No way, he's skinny, anything under 38" (me) is skinny whippet territory.

Tasty lugs on a mercian, horizontal drops.

Its not the Bob, its a sweet Bianchi, almost tempted even if it had to be geared.

Lusting after (yet) another frame, are these short horizontal drops long enough for setting up as fixed?

asm
I caught up to them at the next traffic lights, noticed their window was wound down still, so I said in a jovial manner "well yes, actually I'm very well thank you, and yourself?" and casually cycled on to much honking and engine revving, so much in fact that the car in front got scared and almost pulled across my path.

pillocks.

Taser gun moment. "zssssst zsssst"

Yup but n+1 needs £$+1, until I'm back at work I've gotta be sensible thus why I've not bought the Benotto that Roberto has. Besides, the previously much mistreated and unloved Bob cost me £21... I feel a moral imperative to show it love and affection, rather like a rescue puppy.

Is it worth taking to a frame builders for repair, I've not tried it but several post on other threads have mentioned Roberts I think. Might be cheaper than a new build up even with sorting the other problems.

Happy Birthday, judging by the weather you must have been a good boy all year, or maybe its a just reward for creating the forum.

WTF! I tried just about every word combination apart from GFM, bollocks.
Cheers Hippy are you the LFGSS google superstar? Cue P'shop...
No mention of a bike jumble so I emailed the contact listed. I'll post what I find out.

Can't find any details of the good friday meet with or without jumble, so if ayone hears anything please post?

fruitbat Ben,

   I've just been looking, again, at the photos. I'm reminded of puppies dying.

Keep the gears on this one

Well, I've got several geared already, the beater mtb, the crashed evans and the lurvely condor are all geared. I've been gathering the parts for the fixed and am nearly there. Once I can start using my arm I want to it built up, my two candidates were the evans or the bob, I need to talk to the solicitors tomorrow but I guess I can't strip the evans until everything is legally sorted (a year?) which just leaves the bob. I don't feel guilt about converting it, especially as keeping the paint job means keeping the cable guides etc in place. Now if I was grinding them off then yes I'd kind of agree, but its a frame that's been sitting rusting unloved in a shed for a decade or two and I'm gonna love it and stroke its polished bits...

Can't find any mention so this must be the first. Any others locally coming up? I know about tomorrow's sevenoaks way but can't make it.

Just found this but no mention of the 1st March.
Saturday 17 May 2008 Herne Hill - Cycle Jumble 10:00

Is there an bike jumble that day?

More the merrier though, we have London Fields who are fab, and bicycle magic who are OK further south. Anyone used and/or know anything about the tiny bike shop on Hackney Rd just along from Kirby Glass?

trampsparadise Still, they'd make a killing on Saturday!

Maybe, maybe not, there's already a guy whose name I forget who has a bike stall there, he does repairs (Base is elsewhere) and sources stuff, it might of course be him.