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Having had a look on Ebay, and at the risk of talking myself out of money (as Jeez and memdazi haven't said nought yet), I think that the £230-ish region might be more realistic.

Fuck knows how a Charge Plug only loses 10% of its value after two years, but decent jump bikes hold up about as well as Northern Rock shares...

10? It is a Sunday after all.

Didn't BMW pioneer the use of V-brake or something?

Not as far as I know - I think that one of those small, mid-nineties firms (Paul, Kooka, Grafton, Machine Tech, someone like that) was making linear pull brakes a couple of years before Shimano brought them out.

When that happened, everyone transitioned - for all intents and purposes Shimano were an MTB monopoly.

tend to agree, it doesn't seem like a great approach. I suppose they could minimise the effect by making tolerances very low but then it may not fit over some steerers where tolerances are all to cock!

Have you thought about writing to Brooklyn?

I can't see that having the bolts there would be any less effective than having them at the back. The effort required to tighten around the steerer tube is going to be significantly more than the effort require to flex that piece of aluminium in front.

Ignoring the amount of torque that screws can exert (which, due to thread pitch, can be huge) which is going to be the bigger source of resistance there, the small hole with something in it, or the bigger hole with nothing in? I know which I think is more likely. given that the bolts are (be they at the front or back) trying to stretch that aluminium round the steerer, instead of just flexing the body of the stem.

Sunday. Meet you at the shop and head down to Dorking?

It's a size "long", so an effective top tube of a bit under 22.5". The stem is something like a 50mm, so it's pretty compact. There are geometry tables on the Commencal website if you want more details.

Commencal recommends riders of 5'10"+, but it depends on your body shape and what you are planning to use it for. If you were planning on using it for polo, geometrically it's similar to something like a small 15" frame with a heavily slopping top tube, so it would probably be best for someone about 5'8"?

Anyone riding Friday/Saturday/Sunday/Monday?

Price drop: £250 (offers)

Exams are finished so I can start thinking properly about selling stuff. I know I should put this on Ebay, but knowing my luck the winning bidder wouldn't understand that collection only means collection only and that I am not going to drag a 30lb+ bike box to the post office.

I think £250 is a decent price for what it is (I think that it was my bike Dicki had a go on?), given that it's not been thrashed, but I would say that - I'm the seller. If anyone wants a test ride, let me know, otherwise it'll be going on Ebay when I can be bothered.

What he said.

I've got one on my MTB and I think it looks OK, although I'll happily admit that it wasn't put together with any particular aesthetic considerations in mind, I will caveat that by suggesting that lay-back Thompsons are an acquired taste.

Photo is on my profile, I'm not going to bother posting it here just to get shouted at, even if it is just to illustrate a point.

I'd assumed that, as much as the brakes help, the freewheel and mid-range power of a MTB is what makes it punch above its weight, commuting wise.

people commuting on heavy ass MTB's with mud cutting tyres....ha ha hahhhhhh....fools!

I'm not convinced my MTB would be significantly slower to commute that my normal bike, save for the fact that the bars are a bit wide for cutting between cars.

Anyone that plays in the current abomination that calls themselves the misfits is a pussy, fact!*

*Not that Danzig isnt either though
YouTube- Glen Danzig gets in a fight

I love this. "Cheap shot , cheap shotter!". The back story is pretty interesting too, although it can be summed up as Danzig is stupid enough to fuck his support bands and the start a fight with a big guy from Detroit who sings in a band called "North Side Kings".

Awful sloppy punch though.

Those photos make me dizzy! Is he actually making the frames, or just badging up XACD frames? The wording in the ad is fairly ambiguous on who actually makes them, and mentions the frames being delivered in its 'original packaging'.

Was that photo taken in Charlcote? I used to work at the bar in the hotel if it was.

I'll have to look out for a rash of titanium track bikes next time I'm in the shire, although now that Ziploc and Hub have closed, I'm not sure where the guy is going to find his core audience of hipsters with too much money.

Some guy near Stratford on Avon is making titanium frames with a view to fixed builds. I met him and his family whilst riding and stopped to chat about his bike, turns out he made it himself.

http://gtechniq.com/spin/ebay/frame/s5.jpg

http://gtechniq.com/spin/ebay/frame/s6.jpg

http://gtechniq.com/spin/ebay/frame/a5.jpg

Who is it? Was it an ex-Pashleys, ex-Saracen or ex-Farr Metal Works (or whatever they were called) guy?

Dez Cadena was a pussy, you pussy...

Why don't you push your bike round here and say that to my face?

Having failed to do this last year, I think that I might try and do it either Thursday or Friday the week after next (28th/29th?).

It's school holidays, so more kids that I'd like, but hopefully the fact that it's a Thursday will mean it's not too bad.

I'd be riding out from Putney and it's 10 miles, so about 45 minutes ride. This means it's about 16 miles from Central and 20 miles from London Fields.

I hear that he also got bought a lot of drinks while he had the tattoo make up on, mainly by small time crims wanting to hedge their bets.

You've got to consider the age factor versus the fact that Henry Rollins is so angry all the time. Fuck on the floor and break stuff, as he says.

Keith may have lost his edge, but My Chemical Romance is a step too far. It's like if East Bay Ray played for Miley Cyrus - I get that he's not got much punk left in him, but that line still remains.

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Just sticking to bands that I get the impression you'd like that formed in the 90s (and inspired by your love of citation):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_(band)

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refused[/ame]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botch_(band)

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillinger_Escape_Plan[/ame]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_(band)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godspeed_You!_Black_Emperor

This obviously doesn't prove that the 90s produced as many great bands as, say, the 70s but the perception that it was inherently worse is more to do with the way that people in their 20s experienced music from each decade. It also glosses over the fact that many bands formed in the 80s produced their most relevant albums in the 90s (Earth, Soundgarden, Godflesh).

Look at the charts (which I can assume represents radio play to a fairly good degree) from any decade and you'll realise that radio was awful. It's only by picking through the stuff from the 70s that survived that this notion of it being inherently better (musically) than the 90s is arrived at. I'm sure that, in the same way that people often consider the 90s the nu-metal decade, there will be people who are currently 19 going "the "noughties" were just full of Crunkcore bands", which is shit.

So, in summary, the 90s weren't as bad as all that.

I'm guessing that Max was talking about the way that dents effect aluminium rather than its fatigue properties. Steel (or titanium) would have been a better choice to my mind.

That's good, so that's guitar, bass and vocals or drums.

You live in the general Putney area don't you Max? I'm sure I've seen your beautifully painted bike around my locale.

Wow, in Black Flag related news I have just discovered that Keith Morris sang backing vocals on a My Chemical Romance song.

Ouch.

Any fight between Vallely and Garfield would look like this:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZpdUUdd3I&feature=related"]YouTube-
They Live Fight Scene[/ame]

I never even knew there was a bike shop there. It was always just Broadribbs, John Aitkens and that little place just down the Radford Road from JA.

I did my work experience in Broadribbs when I was 14.

Is this race on Youtube? I would love to see whether the guy on the Koga managed to win.

I find the fact that Cannibal Corpse played Leam more amazing.

I still really want that John Tomac replica that (word on the street) John Aitken Cycles still have kicking around.