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CM is on the 31st, right? Not on the 24th. Bunch of tree huggers but I might drop by.

sorry guys, I am out. And I admit its the rain. Was considering up to last minute but I wouldn't enjoy it (and thats the point of it, isn't it?). Broke my shoulder 2 years ago when I slipped on a wet manhole cover. rain = bad memories.

anyone riding over to Kew from Holloway Rd or Camden (relaxed pace)?

me = another graphic designer / art director

totally agree with everuthing scott says. Nothing wrong with earning a decent living and developing what started as an underground company. As long as the product is good. If all cool brands need to remain underground in order to stay cool the world would be dominated only by big and not necesseraly very good brands.

sure you guys want to start in Kew this time?
I don't mind but if we start in the East again, same as last time, we could go to the pub before. Don't know many pubs in Kew. It also seems more fun to me to ride the bridges in the west when you are still more awake. But I obviously go with the majority...

jonaent (Jon) And u should get it built at brick lane bikes.... they have just got back from Italy with a host of vintage parts and frames.... I'm sure they could get just the right bits

Walter Yeah, Condor=Connedmor

thanks for the advice. I may check on the parts that Brick Lane Bikes got from Italy and speak to Roberto when I see him. But I do trust Condor more than Brick Lane Bikes to build it. Have seen a few questionable conversion they did at Brick Lane. Condor is always busy and pricy but I had good experience with them so far, especially with Keith who always helped me a lot (except when you hassle him just before he is going for his lunch break).

I bought a colnago steel frame the other day and want to build a nice italian, slightly retro roadbike (with gears I am afraid). Hasn't even got a fork yet. I wonder if there is anyone on the forum who would like to help me and give me some advice on parts. I will probably ask Condor or Mosquito to put it together but want to have a more clear idea on parts before I go there. Also need to find a colnago chrome fork or otherwise columbus... Anyone out there really geeky about classy roadstuff???

melv, I would wait with thinking about courier work until you are more used to cycling in London. If you haven't had a bike for 10 years it will take a little while. I am not a courier but I always cycled. Then I had a break for about 5 years where I got lazy (and fat). After that getting into cycling again really took a while. You learn to know the city, its many potholes, metal plates in the ground, dodgy corners and crossings, and you might crash as well. Everyone I know has crashed at some point and had broken or twisted bones.
So take it step by step...

bought a frame with matching decongestant tablets today. For all time free roads (just in case anyone is interested in this nonsense)

here my bikes and bikes to be (I know, the condor doesn't qualify but I do ride mountains in bavaria and toscany occasionally, wouldn't attempt that on a fixed). The blue one is nondiscriptive french frame, stronglight cranks, rubbish wheels (whatever they are) but its been going quite well for the past year. The red one is a frame I bought from a friendly old guy at the Zurich velodrome. With some help it may become a decent bike one day.

sorry to hear about your accident. Man, you have to be careful...sounds scary. I am riding fixed for a year and a half now after riding roadbikes for a while. It was quite a slow process to get into it. First the bike was just in our studio, I tried it in the hallway and couldn't work out at all how to stop without a front brake. So I fitted one and tried it in the parking area behind the house first. Got more confident, fittet my clip pedals (which I was scared of using as well a long time ago). Only rode short distances first...
Now I am so used to it that its almost a part of my body, but I still don't ride too crazy and I wear a helmet (don't care if its uncool). I also swap with my roadbike from time to time and never really had a problem with attempting to coast. I cycle a hell of a lot and feel generally quite safe and confident. Fingers crossed. I found fixed actually safer in heavy traffic than freewheel and you kind of learn to sense tricky situations way in advance... When I broke my sholder 2 years ago that was on a rubbish hybrid bike which I only had for a short while, not on a fixie, and I was overtired, stressd and not focused.
So take it easy and take things step by step... Don't learn to trackstand on the busiest crossing and don't go down hills in full speed.

the alarm sound is maybe not such a good idea. But there are existing networs where the device would send a signal to a mobile phone and you could track it on a map on the intrnet. Its just a question of negotiating with the companies that own those networks

Cool. Glad to see they came out well. Thanks to Howis for picking them up.

dominiclincoln. I am up for meeting and discussing this in more detail as well. I already have a folder with research into this somewhere on my computer and contact details of product designers I spoke to. Just never had enough time to push this any further. In a group of interested people it may work better.
I am in Hackney, where would it bee good for you to meet up?

Hovis Brown [quote]punkpixel Sorry for the delay on this. I was away for a long weekend. Spokes cards are printed and ready (2500 of both winning ones). Apparently they look very good but I haven't seen them yet.

As I mentioned before they are like normal postcards, full colour, thick card, both sided but not laminated in plastic. That everyone would have to do individually. However we got them for free. Maybe some we can just use as postcards and leave them in bike friendly places.

Howis Brown mentioned he wanted to pick them up from the printers on Hatton Garden and store them in his office.

The printer is called Oldarcres / 62 Hatton Garden / speak to Richard or Miranda.
its a big box they told me. Probably too heavy to carry on a bike.

do i just go by and ask for richard or miranda and they'll hand over the box? if yes, then i can do that either today or tomorrow.

now we just need to sort out lamination. it may be easier for people to get their card and laminate it themselves as finding a large enough laminator to do all the cards might be difficult.[/quote]

Yes its fine to pick them up. I told them. They know me for years. Downstairs you can also speak to Sue. I give them a ring now. let me know how they came out.

Re Lamination: I have never done much plastic lamination, but I suppose it would be easiest if everyone does it himself. Or we check with places like Servicepoint where they normally laminate restaurant menus how much it would be to laminate a few hundred.

dominiclincoln Try getting an account at somewhere like photobucket.com, upload your picture, then copy and paste the IMG text into the comments box. hey presto.

Thanks for the advice. I will check on it in the next couple of days

I also had this idea a while ago (well, after my last bike got nicked) and looked into it. Also spoke to a couple of product designers. I would be really interested looking into this more and developing it into a proper working product. I don't have so much idea about the technical site but would be very interested in developing, branding, proposals for funding and investors, project management, etc. I really think this could work and there is a market for this. Would be interested to meet up and discuss in more detail.

Sorry for the delay on this. I was away for a long weekend. Spokes cards are printed and ready (2500 of both winning ones). Apparently they look very good but I haven't seen them yet.

As I mentioned before they are like normal postcards, full colour, thick card, both sided but not laminated in plastic. That everyone would have to do individually. However we got them for free. Maybe some we can just use as postcards and leave them in bike friendly places.

Howis Brown mentioned he wanted to pick them up from the printers on Hatton Garden and store them in his office.

The printer is called Oldarcres / 62 Hatton Garden / speak to Richard or Miranda.
its a big box they told me. Probably too heavy to carry on a bike.

photoben Yo punkpixel! Where the cards at? Don't worry if it fell through we ain't worried, we just wanna get some cards printed paid for or not!

Cheers geez.

they are all done. i will put a separate entry.

never added a picture here. Maybe stupid question but how do I post a picture on an Apple Mac (and what format)?

ffub Letter space your caps, use the right font (Johnston P22), and get rid of the ghosting round the sprocket. Then you've basically got slamm's design, except with a sprocket instead of a lock ring. That was in the context of a jokey spoke card too, alone it's just a logo rip off of the underground logo, which has been done to death by street vendors (Adihash anyone?)

Maybe LondonFGSS need it's own simple logo, for the site and affiliated stuff. Be good to get the address on some event flyers.

I agree that proper typography and the correct use of fonts and kerning is most important. On the other hand a bit of creative messing about is always good as well. some of my most serious corporate work started as scribbles on a beer mat when I was totally pissed.

I am in again as well. Put me on the list.

cool I mailed u. Thanks

there was a very sad guy on Brick Lane on Sunday handing out cards as his newly build bike got nicked on Friday.
Here a more less detailed description:

powder blue steel frame (as far as he told me its not a "on one" frame, but non branded)
fixed wheel
white handlebars,
black "on one" saddle with skull & crossbones on it
lots of new parts on it
black hub on front, silver on back

keep your eyes open, you all know how it feels.