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From their website, duplicitous or not, it appears that they are seeking to train up some frame builders in the Wales, presumably to some sort of skill level matching their name.
If that's the case, that may be one part of how they intend to keep the name going.

I believe the Witcomb website has a fairly decent explanation of the move to Wales

Damn only 390.
I have however fired off some vitriolic rubbish in their direction via the contact email address. I asked them if they'd take kindly to me coming up to the DFT headquarters and "teaching 'em a lesson" with my Thor hammer. Fucking halfwits.

Went drinking moonshine in a shack in the backstreets of Delhi with a bunch of weird locals.
Somehow I had still a wallet, eyesight and a life the next day.

I had a similar thing happen to a frame of mine.
I sent it off to Mercian for a repair - two tubes replaced plus a respray. Add in the postage costs and it was more than a replacement frame would've cost if I'd spent a bit of time scouring eBay.
Not to mention the fact that it took weeks and weeks for the repair to happen.
And then, 2 weeks later, the seat tube cracked at the BB, probably due to the crash, but as it wasn't actually cracked at the time no-one noticed.

I'd recommend putting some time and effort into sourcing another one.

OK, I'm out, re-posts are too much of a thorny issue

where be this 'other' thread? i cannae find it laddy.

C'mon Oliver we need you pin it down for us

Arse

What a bunch of pricks

Only in Britain....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8054215.stm

There's these:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Tubus-Tubus-Clamp-Set--Rack-Eyes-for-Seat-Stay-Mounting-12723.htm

That's crying out for some photoshoppering

In a cruel twist of fate...

a load of fire engines burnt to death

Oh i'm not, i'm just saying, there are quite a lot of false things being said, I just thought I should state that to stop people reading that and believing it, there's no need for propaganda. Surely if an argument is actually a decent one there should be enough facts to back it up, instead of relying on speculation and prejudice right?

Yeah you're right of course. BMW drivers are mostly cunts though*.

*apart from those that anyone reading this happens to know etc. etc.

I was watching him doing that yesterday and it does seem a bit looney - going down hill at 50+ whilst putting more weight on the front seems mildly sketchy.
He did alright out of it though

Some BMW's are actually very economical, I remember my dad taking me out of an enthusiastic drive in his big heavy 3 litre BMW and it averaged over 40mpg, sorry, I must've been wrong, how can I argue facts against stereotypes =P We even broke the speed limit which must mean we killed a few kittens too.

So... if there's exceptions, why bring it up? Alright if the majority fit that case fair enough, is it a majority? Do you have any data to back this up? Racing drivers are usually pretty small (for the same reason as jockeys) and they usually have big expensive cars, i'm sure a lot of racing drivers would find that statement very laughable.

Uhh...what?

So how about the Mercedes M Class? Or Porsche Cayenne? Do their drivers buy them for their off-road capabilities? Moreso than X5 drivers? How about the Volvo XC90, Volvo drivers are nice aren't they? But they can't be because the XC90 is a 4x4, there's some logic failing going on in this thread, anyway this is all off topic.

To the OP, sorry to hear about your collision, hope you and your bike are back to full working order as soon as possible, take care.

I wouldn't take it personally, unless you are actually a car.

That'll be a nice ride man. You'll need a helmet for Spain, and a high-vis thing for France when riding in the dark - these is the rules as far as I'm aware, though I'm sure if I'm not I'll be corrected soon enough.
I reckon at that time there'll be a good chance of rain in France, so take your waterproofs.
If I was going that way again I'd be bivvying too, with the odd night in a hostel, so the best of both worlds.
Arrghhh! I'm seething with jealousy!

Bolt croppers eh jaygee... 2 pairs no less... veerrryy suspicious

Ha ha yeah - "look, we've made a feature of the foundations"

My landlord might have a word or two to say about that...

I quite like the bedroom-based workshop cos I can have a lie down every now and then, but my wife is not keen on the setup.

Shit, it feels a bit weird when I get cellar/garage envy. I don't give a shit about having a house/kitchen/car and all that guff, but I'd get a mortgage for a cellar or garage like a shot if I could.
Very sad.

I need a toolbox that size... i have a three drawer at the moment and it's definitely too small.

Where did you get yours / how much?

It's a Talco 'Machinist's Chest' - really meant for tooling and that hence the felt lined drawers!

They're actually really ludicrously expensive, like £150ish + VAT or something.
I managed to find mine on ebay for 70ish, which is still ludicrous for a toolbox really, but it was a birthday present to me, from me.

If you can find one they're the business, as they're very well made, proper runners, powdercoated and lockable. And when it's full of bits and tools it's almost portable too.
A good example of American manufacturing quality that still exists.

My workshop - is mostly contained in this, which lives in the bedroom/living room/back yard, along with a workstand.

I recently found out that Campagnolo made some of the wheels for the Lamorghini Countach.

Campag make (or did make) quite a lot of stuff other than bike kit, most of it for cars, especially wheels.
If you've got a massive machine shop or factory, you may as well use it to its full potential I suppose.

Sounds interesting - may well give it a read when I've some time. Will it stop me getting exasperated at the daftness of the road and distribution system in this country?