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As John pointed out to me... having money stored in the electricity box may not be the best way to ensure it is not tampered with.
The only real way forward is to counter the safety argument with another safety argument... I walk my dog through there at night times, there are loads of gangs in there now, etc and push for a larger/tougher/secure box to be installed.
Exactly. The problem isnt the cost of lights, and theres no real dispute about the cutoff time (wasnt it somewhere around 9.30-10?). From what Southwark told me, the real problem is the damage, and the danger of messing with the electricity. A box full of money will only attract more damage.
Emphasising that leaving the park in darkness brings its own danger is a good angle to take, as is a more general "Im a resident who uses the park and Id like the lights back". I think thats all Kev told them, which works because it makes it sound like theres a wider range of people using the space. Maybe even tell them your kids play there and now its dark at night its not safe for them, but theres nowhere else?
Should we move this to another thread, btw? Its not about the BFF, and it involves people who might not be coming. Anybody seen a mod around here?
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and John, i don't know the full story but if there's no lights you should be asking for a reduced rate. What ever you do don't pay the same price as the Open (obviously you wouldn't be as there's was probably a weekend rate)...
Ha. Dont worry. I dont think we were paying full price anyway. We're definitely not now :)
The thing is, theyre not losing enough money for a council to care about. Its a couple of hundred quid at most. Southwark events team are really supportive of the BFF, and polo in general, but the public safety people are much more concerned about the danger of having people breaking into their electricity supply boxes to mess with the timers..
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They're doing it the hard way, trying to tell the hundred of thousands cyclists to not undertake HGV instead of telling the 2% of HGV in London to be wary of cyclists.
I dont have a problem with them saying "dont undertake". Its pretty solid,simple advice. I wish more people followed it.
The police on that stand, however, were suggesting that even if youre already in the ACL before the HGV arrives, you should get out of the way because youre in its blind spot..
I dont think thats the hard way at all. I think its too fucking easy to blame the cyclists, instead of requiring operators of dangerous vehicles to be able to see whats going on right in front of them.
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Are the police even aware that the cycle lane and blind spots are exactly the same? I am pretty sure if they had noticed that they would do something?
I think this image comparison should be sent to them, to show them just how bad it is.
No, theyre aware. They just dont give a fuck. I spoke to one guy who was advised by the police on that stand to "just get out the way if a truck comes up behind you" in that situation.
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Thats what I thought - you can compress the base of the bag without attaching the clips to the flap due to the loops that catch the buckles towards the front of the base of the bag.
But the buckles only grip the straps when theyre at a certain angle. Once they rotate, they slide along the strap (which is obviously how theyre meant to move). The problem is that you cant rely on them staying at that angle in a real world situation, so they tend to slip unless theyre attached to the flap to keep them straight.
Beyond that though, I really liked the bag. Light and uncomplicated. Awesome
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Sure. Newington is just off borough high st. On the corner of Harper Road and bath terrace, in SE1 . Theres a map here:
As for how to arrive? Is there still a Brighton-London Bridge train? Thats the nearest, but if youre doing Brighton-Victoria,I'd head up victoria st and over Westminster bridge, then take the Borough Road rather than facing the Elephant & Castle roundabout..
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Okay. Southwark update= no lights. Not for the BFF. Maybe not ever. Ill post the full story in a more appropriate thread than this one though.
Meanwhile, official BFF shedule=
Polo 9.30 > darkness
Look Mum No Hands for beer+late license. Rollapaluza are there too.
Someone just asked me about registration fees so hopefully this should make it clear.
Things that are free: playing polo. LMNH entry. Rollapaluza.
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- THE CLACOS: Yorgo, Pierre-max, Quentin
- Roastbeef sandwich: Luis, Mirek, Marmou
- Hammer time: Otters, PiQuE, Josh boozehound
- Quornstars: VENN, Wicksie, Crumb
- Talking mallet heads: snoops, max, cam
- The Polobotomy: Mayeut, Natasha, Marek
- Meh: Mrak, Gorms, Aussie Nick
- Big Wang Theory: Dale, Arum, Joe
- Barnwell Bandits: Luca, Greg, Matt
- Poo Change: moog, slamm, julia
- El loco hoser frog: Brendo, Rik, Marc
- FFFFUUUUUU: John H, MattBD, Lalou
- TNT: Matt goldenwheel, Em, Greg MGM
- GTA: Gabes, Todd Cosmic, Chav Aidan
- Malicious undead poo: Chukker V, Hassan, Turd Aidan
- The Chancers: Old man Bill, Bogey, Chan
- Urine Goal: Josh/Gabe/RV
- UKFRJP: Woody MCR, French Thomas, 'some Japanese guy'
- Polo Pendejos: Andy Lebowski, Wayne Peach, Jono Marshall
20.???????????????????: Baker, Chippers, Ali (i hope - UoB polo Tim, Josh, Josh (Thom?)
- The Fuckest Uppest (second Brighton team, missing a third player)
- Diceface's team (Ben (ex-Manc), Paul & Liam)
- The Fuckest Uppest (second Brighton team, missing a third player)
Was that what you were aiming for?
- THE CLACOS: Yorgo, Pierre-max, Quentin
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The BFF/Seamus *lleycat race will take place on friday 15th October. Meet at the Duke of York or as it’s now known the er…Clerk and Well at 7.30pm if you’re gonna race or not. £5 minimum donation is what we’re asking but even if you don’t race please come and make a donation, it’ll be much appreciated. Good luck to all who race, and heal quick Sea Mouse.
Overdrive says "It’ll take place on the Friday evening rather than the Saturday and will end at a party in an attempt to get more couriers to race. I’m planning a point to point course with some excellent prizes for those who do well."

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- THE CLACOS: Yorgo, Pierre-max, Quentin
- Roastbeef sandwich: Luis, Mirek, Marmou
- Hammer time: Otters, PiQuE, Josh boozehound
- Quornstars: VENN, Wicksie, Crumb
- Talking mallet heads: snoops, max, cam
- The Polobotomy: Mayeut, Natasha, Marek
- Meh: Mrak, Gorms, Aussie Nick
- Big Wang Theory: Dale, Arum, Joe
- Barnwell Bandits: Luca, Greg, Matt
- Poo Change: moog, slamm, julia
- El loco hoser frog: Brendo, Rik, Marc
- FFFFUUUUUU: John H, MattBD, Lalou
- TNT: Matt goldenwheel, Em, Greg MGM
- GTA: Gabes, Todd Cosmic, Chav Aidan
- Malicious undead poo: Chukker V, Hassan, Turd Aidan
- The Chancers: Old man Bill, Bogey, Chan
- Urine Goal: Josh/Gabe/RV
- UKFRJP: Woody MCR, French Thomas, 'some Japanese guy'
- Polo Pendejos: Andy Lebowski, Wayne Peach, Jono Marshall
20.???????????????????: Baker, Chippers, Ali (i hope)[/QUOTE] - UoB polo (aka The Fuckest Upest) Tim +2
- THE CLACOS: Yorgo, Pierre-max, Quentin
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Its across from the Brewery. 4 Wilkes St. From 7pm
http://www.bicyclefilmfestival.com/london/wednesday-13-october.html