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well Chris is apparently.

Why don't you read the posts which i posted to the guy that actually started the thread. Was I rude to him? NO why? because he wasn't rude to me.

For the last time Mashton was rude to me. I gave it back. It could have been left there but others felt it necessary to jump in. And I am and will continue to stand my ground.

Anyone who takes the I must know better because I went to Cambridge line with me is a going to be called a cunt. No one is going to convince me otherwise.

OK, this is mental. Please quote my alleged rudeness, so that I know what you are talking about. I merely attempted to discover the kind of physics that you were referring to. I think that my strongest word was 'twaddle'. Not exactly offensive. I mentioned Cambridge, I'm sorry. To be honest, the kind of physics to which I referred, I learnt in A-Level courses, in a small town in middle England. So what?

To say that I would find myself on a pub floor or that my accident was 'karma' is unbelievable.

I will now be rude: In my mind you have the existential worth of a testicular worm, a worm that has turned it's back on other worms and rapes the ones it encounters. The kind of raping testicular worm that would never even give the reach around. Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit stirring fuck-juice scum. Honestly, please, go and self hurt.

I won't post on this thread again because:

a) It is pointless
b) I am finding it upsetting
c) Feeding trolls can be dangerous.

Thanks for ruining an otherwise lovely day.

Nice one Cas, we wondered who we'ed harrassed.

VB, that was me texting you, forgot to sign off :-(

Good to see you all there, it was a lovely summer evening. let's try and find more sunshine next week, if possible. I will probably not be around, so need a volunteer for getting a non-shady venue.

Also, at the end of the night we found a black Samsung phone left on the table. If it is yours, PM me to sort out picking it up :-)

Appar, he was ANALPLEASER, with a total of 1 post or something! Lameness.

IMO

Agree with the first part.

But surely the capitalist approach should mean that those with crap service lose custom as they can go elsewhere? Pre Credit Crunch(TM) there was too much £$£ swilling around so (generally) companies didn't need to worry about pissing off customers as ther was always another round the corner. I think we will see very different & improved levels of service appearing as retailers realise they need to outperform expectations in order to keep customers.

Agree entirely. It was meant to imply a bad capitalist approach, not a bad and capitalist approach.

So, "capitalist approach" as a noun, rather than capitalist as an adjective.

Grrr, inadequate expressiveness of language.

I'll be there from about 5:00, see y'all there. Will try and blag a table in the garden

Thanks for the mags Jim, interesting contrast to what I usually read :-)

I suppose the reason why it deserves some praise is that adequate, let alone good, customer serviceis seen as an exception rather than the norm. Not a great world to live in perhaps, merely one of the negative outcomes of short term, flawed, capitalist approach to running a business.

So, well done to BJ for doing what they should do, when so often our experience of customer service is difficult, dispiriting and damnable.

Chamois is weird, but it works. The menthol sensation on the nuts is OK, you just have to relax and go with it ;-)

@fruitbat. No probably not. But I wouldn't bring it up in an RIP thread, either.

Mike is probably a bit pissed off right now, he may even be recriminating himself for not sorting it out earlier - what can your comment do to help?

Also, I apologise for my comment, I should have buttoned my lip. Torpid Construct has got me a bit angry this AM. Sorry :-)

I'll edit, if you want?

If a relative of yours "developed a crack", you would take it to a doctor and demand that it/they be fixed/cured. To leave a 'growth' in the frame for over a year without treatment is a case of gross negligence and your OP now looks like a bit of self pity.

This comment is inappropriate and makes me think ¨COCK¨.

Sorry for that, but it's true.

That sucks Mike, will you have it buried or cremated?

Yeah, it is surprising how few SS v Fixed threads we have had, given the name of the forum.

Interesting as well, that this thread is backed up by a poll - let democracy speak. Although look where that got us on Friday... :-(

Well, I have a very early hospital appt. Tomorrow so I may be early to bed ( leave 9ish) but am sure it will drag on.

I did mention the Lamb is open till midnight, didn't I?

See y'all tonight.

Wow, i missed so much by leaving the house for a day!

First off, thanks to Wayne, badtmy and aidan for looking out for my, much sullied, reputation. Thanks to TC for everything else - you are a one, aren't you?

I would like to throw another fizz-suxks point into the mix, about balance rather than traction (which IIRC was the original point of contention) : the gyroscopic effect of the pedalling action will serve to increase the upright stabiliry of the bike / rider. In combination with hippy's point about the position of your centre of gravity being almost completely independent of leg motion ( observe your c o g when walking, jogging etc - in cycling it is better due to no net upward thrust as when you 'bounce' a running step), then peddaling looks like a more stable dynamic cornering proposition than freewheeling.

Of course, there ae caveats: pedal strike if crank length is inapprpopriate; inability to control c o g position at high cadence; bad pedalling style leading to uneven traction... But, in the proposed situation of a non-novice fixed rider in London on an appropriate bike, i think that they should be disregarded.

I suspect that the determining factor here is rider experience, not drive train technology - it would be rash to bet the farm on SS or fixed. Making a blanket statement that SS is better at balancing through corners seems similarly rash and not a little incendiary (witness the firestorm).

As for giving proper citation of my qualifications before using them, if you have a problem with that then it rather undermines your position as a serious debator. You may have noticed a certain self-defamatory interlude in brackets before I mentioned Cambridge; it's not something I would bandy around with scant regard to context, but it seemed appropriate here.

Fuck me, that was a lot to type on a touchscreen handheld :-(

In fact, I find your assertion a rather torpid construct, Torpid Construct.

so the laws of physics don't apply to everyone?

When I have a rig that meets the criteria I'll happily take the challenge.

Uhh, which laws of physics are you referring to? This isn't Star Trek you know - if you think that you can use some formulation of Newtonian mechanics to back up your point then please do so.

Speaking as a fixed rider who also has freewheeled bikes and a Part 1A qualification in Physics from (wait for it) Cambridge University, I think you are speaking twaddle; except in the case where the cornering speed to which you are referring sends my fixed cadence stupidly high (> 145 rpm or so, I suppose), such as in an Alpine descent. On London roads, never.

You my friend, spent way too much time with em and her cali speakin friends.

probably true. oh well...

Awesome Jack, it'll be hella-cool to see you. (I think that was Bedstuy speak)

+1 to the Wenlock, I'll look out for you in there Scarlett (spelling?)

As for beers:

Jennings Cumberland Ale
Karmeliet Trippel
Jever (thanks for the spelling Skullhead)

• anything real, nutty, with a dash of hoppy bitterness, in a pub that sells pork scratchings with hairs on.
  

That could work. PM me if you need it? Also, my phone number is in the numbers thread.

I have a pair and they work fine for me, got them on sale about a year ago.

They can also make you go faster than the average hipster - evidence from the YouTube - LondonFGSS Docklands nightride
@ 2:35.

crikey, we may need a bigger pub. if the weather is good, we can try to take over the garden...

I'm off to Cambridge on Friday night, not back till Saturday evening...

Fuck my stupid cunting fucking bolloxy elbow.

I want to ride my new Flickr Photo Download: Wilier Lavaredoto Cambridge with you lot of loverlies.

Cocksuckerassfuckerdwarftossers.

Yeah. I'd love to come next Tuesday. It'll be my first time though, so be gentle with me....

don't worry, we'll play nicely. I'll buy you a pint to make up for that pompino :-(