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Yeah, well, it's funny that messengers have got more and more 'ordinary' looking and progressively more and more aggressive about 'owning' a look.

Yeah, that's about it.

But at the first messenger champs, the only guys wearing cut-offs were the SF, Boston and TO guys. Almost everyone else was in lycra. There were only 5/6 people on fixies (2/3 from DC, 1 from SF and London). And there was only a hand-ful of different brands of bags Globe, Zo, Pac, T2 and Ortlieb. Oh yeah, and everyone, and I mean everyone, rode clipless.

Actually, the current messenger look isn't a NYC thing. It was kind of a little bit from SF, a little bit from TO, a little bit from Berlin, a little bit from London, a little bit from NYC, a little bit from Boston, a little bit from DC, a little bit from...

If you listen to NYC messengers, they'll have you believe that they invented the bicycle, never mind bicycle messengering.

In the early 90s, when the international messenger community was born, the cities with the strongest messenger culture were TO and SF. NYC was barely on the map.

MrSmith Bill, you have been both real and fake so does this mean you are bisexual?

Well, according to willski, I am neither, so I am a eunuch, I guess. I'll be around to clear up the mess, tho.

Ah, Tofu. What a big mouth that boy has.

http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/the-quickest-rider

:-)

You nailed it.

OK, the poster comes off as a little, well, up itself, and over-sensitive. It's not an attempt at an insult, it's meant to be a joke (I think), though.

But don't you think you are responding in kind?

What Alleycat race?

Oh da! Too slow - again.

Try this:

Jos! This is a polite forum.

There's a version of the God one that's about Eddy Merckx, but I can't remember how it goes.

:-(

What's the difference between a controller and a can of dog food?

• Dog food has brains in it.
  

What do you call a messenger without a girl-friend?

• Homeless
  

What's the difference between God and a controller?

• God doesn't think s/he's a controller.
  

How many messengers does it take to change a light-bulb?

• F*** off, I'm not going up there!
  

No, I didn't think so.

Oh, have I told my terrible messenger/controller jokes on this forum yet?

A true messenger/fakenger ONLY washes his clothes when the pub is shut.

I'm not a messenger anymore, and now you tell me I'm not even a proper fakenger?

Shit, life doesn't get any easier as you get older, does it?

yeah, but I get extra points for having my saddle too low

http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/fakenger#c002816

No, I'm the King of the Fakengers!!!!!!!!

Here's proof:

If you look really really really really closely you can make out the word 'wanker' on my socks....

Totally Nhatt, most messengers are more than gracious, otherwise I wouldn't still be doing what I do. But hey, I have a reputation for grumpy c***iness to keep up!

:-)

Ungrateful couriers? I could write a book.

He only talks to 'real' bike riders...

Are you going to pay her? The pic is from here. Selimski took it.

This her? If it is, then it's Nhatt you're after