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or 'YOU'RE HALF-WHEELING'

Meet at the coffee shop at the top of Broadway Market, 0930 Sunday. 3 1/2 hours, easy paced, all welcome, fixies too (with front brakes, please), even Hippy. 3 1/2 hours = whatever mileage we do, at the pace that keeps everyone together. Could be 30 miles, could be 40, could be further. All depends on how far we Roll As One. Tea stop at High Beach.

No half-wheeling, show-boating, switching or tennis socks.

That should be the club motto.

It's absolutely brilliant. Best film I saw last year.

Probably some Langster rider with a funny accent. Bloody colonials! Think they know everything about sport.

I accept that cycling is one of those sports where you have to HTFU - but got me thinking that if I was complete novice would I return for another club run? You can imagine the scenario, you keep up for 50 miles and then someone puts the hammer down and you're left spat out the back and on your own with 10 or 15 miles to get back home and feeling knackered.

Exactly.

So...can you give a bit of friendly advice like that or not? It could potentially have been dangerous, but most likely he had just not been bothered to do it.

Sometimes it's welcomed, but I find that a 'friendly' bit of advice all too often turns quickly to full-blown road rage.

I mean I start by simply saying 'oh perhaps you might want to change out of 55 X 11' and next thing I am screaming 'and leave the tube socks at home tomorrow, you utter muppet', whilst beating them around the head with my HPx...

gotta see my therapist again soon

He was a Zurich messenger! Markus Zuest, organised 99 CMWC, worked for Veloblitz.

A mate found a complete Colnago - I mean complete - in a skip (ok, the skip was in Zurich). All that was wrong was a double p*ncture.

Now for sale from our site:

http://www.rollapaluza.com/merchandise.html

I have one of these - Super Deluxe Oversize. Just about the best messenger bag ever made.

Except maybe a Zo bag.

http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/messenger-heroes-number-5-erik-zo
http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/the-zo-index

I preferred the unadulterated version. Then I don't feel so bad when I push him off...

:-)

If you can last past a few races you will begin to see some familiar faces, ask a few stupid questions, make some friends, etc. I was truly sad leaving all my road racing friends behind when I moved here. I guess the tougher it is to make friends initially, the more you will want to keep them..

Not to go on and on about it, but Eastway Sunday novices was excellent - small fees, all levels of ability catered for, excellent tea and cakes in the club-house. Not anymore... :-(

its amazing after all this time people still don't have mallets.

Fuck me, that's a condescending post - I would have been proud to have posted that! :-)

That's bull shit excuse for being rude. If a new person turns up to any event even if there is something they do that is a running personal in joke if someone starts off being intimidating and rude as was mentioned in the opening post it is just some rude bastard who must have an inferiority complex. If they had been riding and chatting for a bit (i.e had a nice welcoming hello, chat about the ride e.t.c) and someone drops a little joke in a friendly manor that is different but by more or less greeting someone with the kind of snobbery posted above is prime twat behavior.

Yeah, but that is, unfortunately, what a lot of the 'racing' cyclists in this country are. Narrow-minded gits, who wonder why it is that the sport has been dying on its knees for the last 40 years...

The sport is hard enough as it is, without all the fing bull-shit snobbery and back-stabbing. I mean, it's no so long ago that roadies used to refuse to acknowledge MTBers, FFS. Road racing is so hard that if you are not really fing determined, you will almost certainly quit after your first race, without some encouragement and help. That encouragement and help should come from your more experienced club members, starting with your first club run.

better not mention that here otherwise ... :Rollapuluza that friendly club with welcoming coach Bill occasionally caning/switching pupil on climbs

:-)

Rollapaluza is very chilled but that's only because I've not had the chance to showboat and half-wheel on any clubruns yet.

SHow-boat? Show-pony, more like.

This Dave Moulton (an excellent bike blog, which I am sure is well known to most of you) on club runs:

http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/british-club-run.html

OK, let's sub.

i apologize for the last hill yesterday. next time tea and cake on me and no bread pudding for myself

Oh, it serves me right for switching you on the 1st hill sprint! :-)

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6.30-7pm? I'm in.

I like Dawes Hill (usually just cos it's such a relief to get off the Sewardstone Rd!). We'll have to take the bunch up Lippits and Mott St soon...

Yeah, Sewardstone sucks. Not least because every cab driver in London seems to live on it.

there's a constant debate at my club (Dulwich) about how to make sure that new riders are welcomed, and there are different rides on different days for new/established/sport riders. (Saturday rides are the social/leisure ride - 30/40 miles at a cruise).

I know that Addiscombe are also very good at this. Other clubs vary. Dynamo seem to be universally loathed (but I'd be interested to hear their side of the story!).

I think it is really important to welcome new riders, and make sure they are looked after. Especially if the new rider doesn't really know anyone else in the club too well. One of the problems with club runs is accomodating a range of abilities/fitness. Rollapaluza isn't at the level yet, but we were speculating about having two runs, with a similar 1st 10/last 10 but with a longer option - so that we still all meet together and finish together but the fitter riders get a harder ride.

But I think that's still a way off for Rollapaluza!

I would still be interested to hear what Dulwich Paragon do - they have a really good rep, and many people recommend them.

i'm in, this sounds good, but how much notice will we get on games? just a 'game tonight?' kinda thing?

Phone tree? Text tree? I can't always get to the forum.

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2. Sano
   
3. Rob
   
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Do you reckon lefties have a natural advantage? If they do, watch out, guess which hand I use...