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Someone observed in here that Trump's message discipline was actually quite good, in that whenever he found himself lost in a ramble he pivoted back to the economy.

Lol. I was just resharing the data as I expect you missed it given the volume of posts.

I was referencing a range of explanations that have been offered by others in this thread

I said this already, but Trump did better among women, latinos, asians, and voters under 29 than he did in 2020. His vote share among men was pretty much flat on 2020.

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-grou­ps-voted-2020

So he won because he was able to broaden his appeal.

Explaining the loss away due to dumb voters, bias, Silicon valley, Joe Rogan, social media, Russian interference etc, gets you nowhere.

Somewhere along the way, someone needs to keep up with an electorally popular alternative to both the status quo and nativist populism. Or we keep getting Trump and his equivalents.

Your explanation is simple, but I'm not sure it's overwhelming

I thought you were encouraging civility a few pages ago?

All the exit polls data points to economy and immigration being key issues for voters, and Trump leading on those issues, but I am sure a few vox pops that you saw that confirm your cognitive biases mean you can intellectualise all that away.

Must be cool to be so clever that you can completely ignore what is staring you in the face.

Currently neck deep in the fork debate: The heart wants the new Factory 32 Stepcast (https://ridefox.com/products/fox-32-factory-sc-grip-sl?variant=45811620446432), the head says either get a previous MY set 2nd hand and save 2/3rd of the price of the new ones!

Contacted my local suspension guy to see if he can price up going direct to Fox rather than through Balfe's or Biketart...

Next question is black, orange, or gold?

financial) support for Trump this time from Silicon Valley.

Money is a matter of public record and the dems had three times more than the republicans.

The simple and overwhelming explanation is that the majority of American voters preferred Trump's policies.

Comedians like Joe Rogan

https://berniesanders.com/video-index-do-not-publish/joe-rogan-says-hes-voting-bernie/

Why didn't it work for Bernie?

Left vs right is not a relevant way to divide the electorate.

The democrats represented elite interests and views on everything from identity politics to immigration to the economy.

Basic signifiers of this are their massive lead in donor capital, their celebrity endorsements, and their lead among college graduates.

That is one way of looking at it.

The other way to look at it is that Trump did better better among women, latinos, asians, and voters under 29 than he did in 2020. His vote share among men was pretty much flat on 2020.

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

Blame the voters isn't usually a good strategy in politics.

There are more constructive ways to deal with the crushing disappointment than finding people here to blame.

It is a fair comment

Who will concede first, Harris or Bruce?

As if there will be an election in 2028

He won on economy and immigration, which were two of the most salient issues for voters per the exit polls.

in the early stages of dementia

I remember reading on here that Trump was in the early stages of dementia in 2016. Credit to him for finding some sort of miraculous strategy for delaying progression.

The big question is who will be the new Seth Abramson. The liberal conspiracy grift is on.

So in summary:

• replacing an evidently senile candidate late in the day
  
• with a widely unpopular VP
  
• with no democratic process
  
• who then launched her campaign by leaning into a north London public school mean girls meme
  
• and calling the other guy weird
  
• while offering not a lot more
  
  

Wasn't successful in the swing states to voters concerned about their precarious economic position?

And this is with corporate donor money out stripping Trump by 3 to 1 (Harris raising nearly a billion dollars during the campaign).

They will find reasons you were wrong and they were right all along

Prime evidence that educated liberals may be more susceptible to conspiracy theories than anyone.

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/17567925/

I guess it is more comforting to think that the betting markets are being influenced by a shadowy hand for nefarious purposes than it is to accept the wisdom of crowds makes Trump favourite.

I hope @606 made some money

Melania will leave him now.

I don't know why people fixate on this.

I expect we will have another obsession with russian interference as well.

It is easier than looking the truth in the face, which is that a majority of Americans like Trump's policies.

Fox has called the election

Can I have some of what you are on please?

The scale of this Trump win is astonishing.

Popular vote win, electoral college landslide, winning all swing states (likely).

Only the second US president to serve non-consecutive terms.

This is going to be a massive Trump win then. Unreal.