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when i was looking for my first fixed bike I a put a list together of all the usual suspects and passed the list on to londons most famous ex-courier who writes for the road mags who basically said go for the pista if you can afford the premium over the others. the lemond filmore was very well specced for the money and would have been my 'budget' choice. another friend who manages a bike shop said there had been quite a few langsters back with shoddy wheels, the pearson touche is good value but i wanted steel, i didn't want an out and out track bike (steep angles /toe overlap) so didn't really consider the bianchi.
however i didn't know about bob jackson then so would probably have gone for one of the off the peg frames as they seem really good value.

buying the condor wasn't a totally pain free experience, it's good to be fitted before buying as i probably would have ended up with too big a frame size without expert opinion but they specced me a too short stem, fitted the wrong cross lever and took 5 weeks to finish the bike instead of the 2 1/2 promised, the service wasn't 'bad' i just think they are a very busy shop. they swapped the stem over no problem and are sorting the lever out.

the bike is great, it's very comfortable and a joy to ride and i like the fact that there is no toe overlap. the bike was a bit of a treat to myself but i don't regret spending the extra over the cheaper options.
I think deciding what you want the bike for and having some idea of what geometry you think will suit you helps narrow things down a bit (i wanted semi-compact not old skool horizontal tt cos of short legs for my height)

happy hunting, buying bikes is fun, it's the waiting that's a pain.

just remebered the frame hubjub sell is worth looking at.

if you wanna sell them whisper or email me

actually i'm intersex, i dont have a penis but an enlarged clitoris called francis. (neither male or female name)

i have 3 bikes
one is called "the singlespeed"
one is called "the big bike"
the newest one is called "the roadbike" or "the condor" or "the pista"

they are all fun to ride but not as fun as my non-doctor delux rabbit bean flicker with mains power pack.

not 30in waist are they? do you fart a lot? have piles?

velocity boy:So when you see someone wearing it, how do you know the difference?

i don't. it's just that at full RRP only bonusboy can afford the stuff and not wince at the markup.

having fun on my bike is more important than kudos from a messenger.

it's nice kit if you buy it in the sale, overpriced wank for cityboys at full RRP.

an email from rapha (only got it because i brought a jersey in the sale)

*July 7th has to be the most exciting day on the 2007 racing Calendar. The Tour de France prologue is being held in central London. There will be two million people on the streets.

The best place to watch the event will be with Rapha. Working with Face Partnership and Fran Millar(David's sister) we have taken the top floor of the Royal Yacht Club overlooking the course in Knightsbridge. We are offering 20 VIP hospitality packages for sale to our friends and customers.

The package: Exclusive view of the course from the Royal Yacht Club. Panoramic windows and balcony. Two 62" plasma screens showing the event. Fine food and wines all afternoon. Exclusive Rapha event jersey. Price £500 per person.

As places are strictly limited, please let us know if you would like tickets to this exclusive event by 1st May. E-mail enquiries@rapha.cc telling us how many tickets you would like. We will reply in the first week of May to the first 20 people to contact us.*

anyone going? :-)

cool. if it's within greater london it's not going to be that far away

so do we leave from your manor? it says on the LCC site that you have to ride there from pre arranged places. i don't have a problem with joining a mini-peleton just wondered where it will be from?

mashton: mr smith - what's your penis called? ;-)

pista

naming your bike is a bit like naming your penis. (imho)

the word 'steed' seems overused.
i like 'fixed' but 'fixie' sounds like Barbies transexual friend

if you don't jump lights there is nothing to worry about.

:meant to be funny, not in a C+ rant start an argument, holier than thou kind of way: :-)

i find non-cyclists either have no idea what it means when you explain a fixed drivetrain and look at you all confused or they are cool about the whole thing, when i told my mother i was getting a fixed bike i expected to have to explain and she just said "it was fun riding a fixed wheel down churh hill when i was a kid".

my race wheels at HH are 28 hole gel 280s on record....I'm 12.5 stone and have absolutely no probs with them (they are tightly built)
heavier deep section rims may affect your acceleration slightly but unless you are a serious sprinter or think you're gonna be winning a lot of "A" league points races, I wouldn't worry about it, they probably roll real nice and have a bit of momentum...
Tubs are faster and smoother and worth keeping....it's true they're not entirely "necessary" but as the risk of puncture is nearly negligible on the track why not?
If you're thinking of racing a lot, keep a second set....can be annoying after paying your entry fee only to break a spoke or get a blowout only to not be able to finish the meeting, also makes riding different gears for different events a lot easier!

is it just me or do other cyclists who don't ride fixed think you are mad? i ride socially with a lot of cyclists who ride all sorts, bmx/downhill/mtb/road/4cross/singlespeed mtb/fixed road.
but am getting loads of stick from those who have 'normal' road bikes (and mtb's etc) about having a fixed with a normal and cross lever for the front brake, they think it's some insane crackpot idea and a totally pointless bike to ride on the road when i find it perfectly suitable.

i find "just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's wrong" goes some way to shutting them up but they still think you have a screw loose.

so is it just me or do others get the same amount of stick?

just refreshed my browser and it's gay pride week in london :-)

Welwyn velodrome is a velodrome in North London (ish).

Annelise? i read that as Analize!

about 2 hours ago! only ridden from condor to tooting so far.
it's my first road bike and i couldn't be more happy with it it, everything feels 'right' about it.
i have been riding singlespeed off road and on-road for a while, just wanted something more suitable for commuting, gears are for fat people so a fixed was the obvious answer, i don't think i will just be commuting on it though :-)

here's my new ride, was definitley worth the wait, honey/brown brooks is on it's way. upspec from standard are dura-ace brake, goldtec/open pro's deda non-anatomic bars

Fuji bikes are available for Annual (2007) rental of £35.00 only....meaning the bike will be reserved for your individual use only, you bring your own pedals which will remain on the bike all year.....it's a pretty good deal if you don't want to make the commitment to buying a track specific bike as they are significantly better than the other hire bikes....grab one quick to get one in your size.

As far as I am aware they are for use at HH only and apart from pedals no other mods can be made......A guy won the "B" league three lap dash final on one only this last Sunday!

Good to see so many people showing an interest in track racing last night.

Winston

London Courier Track Day: www.addicts.tv

camelbacks rock!
but then i mainly ride offroad where a waterbottle is a waste of time, a bottle cage is quite handy to hold a battery for nightriding though. :-)

do you think they are essential when you have track ends? i am hopefully picking up my condor pista in the next couple of days and it doesn't come with them, hubs are goldtec with the allen bolts so i suspect not able to be tightened as much as a nut?

i rode RPM's bike round in circles at a picnick, i then tried to trackstand after several beers. it's difficult and probably best attempted sober.