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LOL. Just saw the memo now and got excited. Should've known they only had hobbit sizes left.

Oh I get it now. Both hands on one side = more force applied and greater leverage, so increased moment/turning. I've probs got my terms all muddled up.

This will be an interesting experience, at the very least. As useful as cargo bikes are, most my kids are too old, and along with living further out the city, the feasibility of a cargo bike is diminishing too.

30 mins is how long the store said it would take - documents, child seat setup, quick demo and all that.

Interesting, I think I get what you're saying, but will have to give it a try. And yeah I'm going to have to try and balance the weight with the kids, I'm sure it'll be plenty heavy and stable on that front.

Maybe, I'm commuting through the city all kinds of times and days, and Saturday's aren't particularly wonderful. A lot of the board squares are in tourist hotspots too, naturally.

Yeah it's Summer Holidays and meant to be a sunny day, so that might make things busy.
Since it's a Saturday, hire is from 11am-5pm only - not including time spent in induction (another 30 mins?). I need to be back in East by around 16:30 though, with lunch in-between and all.

Was thinking of stopping for food at New/Old Kent Road, as one of my favourite Lebanese places is there, and wraps are easy for the kids to eat on the go. Then back to Whitechapel to hit Commercial St and up City Road to reach and tick off all the light blue tiles, and then return the bike.

I'm now thinking I need to account for toilet breaks and stacking the bike around kerbs and corners lol.

Absolutely love this. Considered a c2w purchase on this frameset before.

I know right? It was one of the kids ideas, and I thought a cargo bike would be the best way and give us from freedom from buses, tube, or driving in. We've pretty much been everywhere on the board cos living in London innit, but this should be unique.

Only concern for me is that the hire starts from 11am so we will be hitting peak traffic on a Saturday, would've liked to start the journey nice and early.

Nice one. Thanks for the tip. Any idea how steering works on this particular model?

Haha yeah hopefully it will be fun. The hire company said they'd teach me the ropes first. It's near Regents Park, so thought I'd start with a lap of the park to get used to it, see some Giraffes and the mosque etc. After that it's basically a monopoly loop, but I might cut out Old Kent Road if I get fed up or we take too long.

Lol. That doesn't sound very pleasant, but so glad I asked. Thank for the tip.

So I've hired a cargo bike to take the kids around London on Saturday. An 18ish mile loop to and from Albany Street. Here's the bike in question: https://www.londongreencycles.co.uk/shop/bikes/type/electric/christiania-straight-middrive-steps/

What can I expect laden with 3 kids with a combined weight of around 70kg? Will I get any Strava PRs or KOMs? It runs on a Shimano Steps motor with around 40-60kms. We will be stopping from time to time of course, but I'm trying to work out how long our adventure might take us, with traffic and all.

Awesome. Glad to hear it was simple.

I still have pre-2017 brakes on mine. The newer calipers should work, but require you to drill the fork hole from 6->8mm

Saw a fellow cyclist (he's probably on this forum!) share an insta story/vid and this dude rode past 😁

Aceoffix make fake (patent expired?) Bromptons?

Haha, I was wondering what on earth that was. Now you need other matching gold bits.

Maybe the first-party Brompton kit? https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-folding-detail/340-brompton-rear-frame-clip-retrokit.html

I've got a steel frame (on sale, spotter's old Holdsworth) that's not too far off from being ready to roll, but it won't have enough 'gnarl' to take over gravel functions.

N+1 and that. Most my bikes are posh, in some way.

Agree, and I miss having a bike I didn't worry about.

I'm totally in the aero is king camp as according to "science" bigger, bluffer folks actually benefit more from aero profiles than a seasoned, lean rider does, and because it trumps weight... That side, there's a limit, and if it weren't for the bike in question (especially as it's gravel) I probably wouldn't care and settle on shallow rims.

Ohh, good luck with the build and heal up!

The other dilemma I'm having is having an aero-tubed gravel bike with box/low-depth rims? Maybe I should just go mid-depth, at which point you're basically talking carbon or even more expensive alu sets.

How are the G540s? These were recommended to me too. I forgot to include them on my shortlist as I couldn't remember their number.

Some of the things I liked about them were:

• build quality given the low price
  
• easy to service, but not exactly DT level (cartridge bearings helped)
  
• aesthetics
  
• Wheels came with every hub cap option I could think of (qr, boost, different axle lengths)
  
  

I remind myself that they're basically Campagnolo wheels but with a different badge, so cheaper.

I'm now trying to stick to hubs that have easy to source end caps and that. I've struggled twice with OEM hubs that come with bikes (e.g. Formula hubs, some other randoms).

I've had some basic/cheap road fast-ish wheels and was very pleased with them. Cartridge bearings of course. Having owned DT Swiss, Hunts, Scribes and some others, The Fulcrums fared very well for their price. Better build quality than the Hunts and Scribes.

Yeah most were cup and cone but I recall seeing some cartridge too, although that might have been their 700c counterparts.

Cheers. Saw this. Once you factor in the xdr hub price, I think the discount cancels itself out.

Merlin are selling Fulcrum Rapid Reds 650b for very cheap. Not sure that's your cup of tea.