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Looking to upgrade an older frame to more gearing. Running 7 right now. Thanks.

Long gone I’m afraid

dibs on rack if it'll fit onto a charge scissor.

Going to put this up on the bay then.

Bought this with the idea of building out a gravel type of thing, but that's not happening. Clearance on this frame is very good.

Early 80's Vintage Aerospace with original alloy fork i think it's a Pro model but can't be sure. This is not the fork of death. more like v.3 of the model.

Finished in an original gunmetal grey and orange colour scheme not normally seen in the uk , this one came from europe possibly hence the non standard colour scheme.

The fillet brazed Frame size is 23 1/2" or 60cm from centre of crank to centre of seat pinch bolt , 22 1/2" or 57cm centre to centre along the top tube and has a stand over height of 33" or 84 cm.

Paintwork is good with some age related marks and patina as to be expected from a bike of this age.

Gearing is 2 x 5 with a stronglight sx crank with 170 mm arms , frony mechanism is a Shimano Titlist unit whilst the rear is a shimano crane unit both are controlled by a set of band on shimano friction levers and new cables.

Braking is done by Viscount branded centre pull calipers operated by non aero Shimano 105 levers with new inner & outer cables and top tube cable guides.

Wheels are 700c with the front being the original "Normandy" large flange that is dated to 1980 laced to a rigida rim whilst the rear hub is not marked and the rear rim is a newer style Rigida Chrima one. Tyres are Hutchinson flash.

No visable stampings on the 80 mm stem and the bars are SR sakae road champion with some light scratching and new yellow ribbon style bar tape.

As far as i can tell the fork is the type 3 version but you will need to confirm this yourself on inspection . As shown in the last picture the centre piece in the fork crown is magnetic.

Rides well and is a classic bike that are getting rarer to find .

Please note the garmin mount , selle smp saddle , clip in pedals and under saddle bag mount not included although a saddle and pedals are included.

I bought some tektro long drop calipers that I can bundle with this.

Collect from N16 London.

Something around £200 will be good.

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Hi all. Check out images here:
https://imgur.com/a/WnYwPRR
You can see that there's a ding. Nothing major and on the back corner.
As far as price goes. I don't really know. What do you guys think? New version of this goes for >700. Maybe 2-300 in cash or a trade. Interested in either a runaround bike in medium, or a decent groupset with 10 speed and up.

Arius electric piano
Compact but full size with everything you’d need.

Link to it here.

Had it for a while but no longer used. Two children were tortured on this device. Will trade for cash or bike stuff. If there’s interest I’ll post pics.

It’s in Hackney N16

yeah. i wasn't suggesting you wear that in any serious way. Don't wear those while cycling, that's for sure.

Post truth is basically the internet. It’s a problem. I’m not using a laptop, nor am I believing in a Ww conspiracy (by whom?). I have posted a few links to research institutions at Oxford uni. If you wish to wear a mask, go right ahead... while you still have the choice. Personally, if I were to believe that it was necessary to use one, I’d go for something pretty serious. If my life, and my neighbour’s lives were at stake I’d use something that works. Like this.. Or this.

Those links are not to be taken too seriously friends, i think covid is bio security level 3, not 4 btw. That’s in a laboratory environment, when you are handling the agent (virus) and doing so all damn day long.

Now, if you can’t imagine EVERYONE wearing a face mask that works (and i can’t imagine that), then we’ll have to move on to other strategies for managing risk.

Jeez man. This is what a convo looks like. We don't agree. That's cool. I REALLY don't agree with you, but I think we've reached the limits of an online forum. I like this LFGSS chat and don't want it to turn into some twitter horror. No?

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/

I think this is a reasonable assessment of the situation. All they claim is that the issue is massively undecided. which is all i've been saying my friends.

As far as ending a pandemic goes. It will end, as all pandemics do. Whether or not it ends as a result or aided by interventions will also be unknown. The virus will not be suppressed by interventions, that's just basic. It will become, or already has become endemic. Let's hope that the interventions we have collectively been subject to will not remain endemic.
let's end it there.

right, i'm aware of that being the intention. And that video is perfect because it makes an intuitive argument, that demands for liberal freedom are absurd when they elevate an individual liberty above a collective good. Problem is that it's tricky to draw the right line between individual freedom and collective good. Seems to me that this line is being massively violated. Covid is just a part of a trend, but presents as a mutation leap in the evolution of us being controlled.

I also wear a helmet. Feels cool, and you look more like a pro. I reckon it's only a matter of time before that's no longer something we can decide on for ourselves. mandatory in seattle and melbourne etc. fucks sake.

haha. true.
why the fuck am i required by law to wear a seatbelt?
Like bike helmets... what we want for a government, a strict nanny?
You want to wear a seatbelt, wear a seatbelt. Oh, sorry, the restriction is now built into your car so you have no choice.
The wider argument is about safteyism. That seat belt video is so perfect.

This is what we're moving towards of course.

Don't get me started :)

Is there any evidence that would make you change your stance on masks were it to be released?

Yes of course. A repeatable, randomised controlled study that demonstrates that the benefits of mass face covering (with all kinds of assorted techniques and materials) outweighs the detrimental effects. So far the RCS that exists indicate the opposite. Of course all studies are subject to interpretation. I'd just be happy if there were more effort to actually understand these things before imposing them.

Do I support the intention? Yes. So I'll keep doing it until something better comes along.

Yeah. i'm with you here. I know that my friends think that wearing a mask is like an altruistic gesture. They kind of know that the mask doesn't work to stop the virus, but it is a signal to others that you are with the fact that some serious shit is going on.

I am all for altruistic gestures, but not coerced. Here we are subject to coercion. There is a consensus to wear the mask. Sorry to say, but mass consensus always rubs me the wrong way. I think that most people believe it's bollocks but do it because to NOT do it is to stick your neck out.

I'm concerned that we are entering coercive authoritarian political conditions under the cover of COVID. Am I alone in having that concern?

Thanks for letting us know what discussion to be having boss. Good to hear that you’ve decided the truth.

Personally I’m buying a couple of the ASOS masks that @ltc recommends below. Not because masks work mind you, but because masks are mandatory.

I haven’t found any great route. Tried it twice. It’s a shit area.

There’s a good book on this

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7632329-operation-mincemeat

Totally insane story.

Right. The usuals. Regarding the guy’s affiliation to AIER. Looks like he’s just publishing his covid stuff there. But yeah, sucks that we have to go to a private American libertarian think tank for an article as interesting as this. Quite a few epidemiologists who do not agree with the Uk gov line, but they’re being banned on twitter etc.

I say we address specific content of sources rather than dismissing them because of the publication platform.

Finally, you’re willing to fully believe the word and arguments of that one guy, who isn’t an expert on viruses or on healthcare issues but on chemistry, but you won’t lend much weight to the dozens of experts who have spent their lives studying and fighting viruses. Why?

Totally willing to listen to all voices. Epidemiologists don’t fight viruses, they try and understand the complex environmental co-habitation. But which experts are you speaking of? Seems like this is exactly the forum to post up.

This is a forensic analysis of the virus from an organic chemist. Like the sheldon brown of face mask tech!