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@Eeyorecore s500 if you can live with the hole where the shifter normally would be. really dont know why sram doesnt have a plastic cover or such thing to go over that. other than that very comfortable.

edit: for hollowing out campys you could watch out for cheap mirage shifters

@bjf what rear hub are u using? searching for a disc/fixed hub

and finished:

SOLD

Cinelli Tipo Pista Frameset Size XS
very nice condition - bought new as a complete bike, shortened the steerer a little and ridden less than 200km
Aluminium Frame and Carbon Fork
Comes with headset and seatpost clamp
Original manual and exta dropout-shims included
complete geometry -> https://cinelli.it/en/prodotti/tipo-pista-en/

Located in Germany but will ship anywhere - £250 £190 £180 now £170 for frame/fork/headset/clamp including shipping to UK

dropbar off, flatbar on

also work in progress:

Weight of an 2020 Croix de Fer 725 Frameset size XS for the book:

Kitchen scale says 2165g frame (with all screws that come standard, seatpost clamp and cable guide) + 1306g fork (uncut).

Also flattened part of chainstay is noticeably wider than on my exact-same geometry Day One (2016). Should be suited a tiny bit better for fatter 650b tires, for 700c it shouldn't really matter - maybe one or two mm difference if at all.

Color is more like a brownish rust metallic color with room lights. With sunlight it really looks like the sparkly bright orange metallic you see on the net.

not really much info on this on the net. found this guy who built a croix de fer with guards and 42mm 650b tires. looks very tight in my opinion.

https://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/aufbauthread-genesis-croix-de-fer-in-xs-mit-flat-bar.856707/page-4

Frame&fork for sale, pm me if interested:

52cm (c-t), some rub from an extra tall tire under the rear brake stay (28mm gp4 season fits worry free), other than that only minor scratches, no dents or cracks - located in germany but will ship anywhere

@dadbike 28mm Conti 4seasons fit on my saeco CAAD5 with ample room (even for dirt roads and hard cornering) in every direction but the rear brake stay. They will rub there if inflated above 90psi . I ride them at way lower pressures so it doesnt matter for me.

Did anyone try some knobbly 650b tires on their (newer model) Day One? Is it mud worthy to put on 47mm or even wider?

@Samuli

looks like you're riding a 53cm roller with relatively small bodyheight, am i right? Would you recommend it?
Im 5'7 and cant decide if i should go for the same setup or the 49cm with alot of spacers