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As promised, this may be useful for those of you who are equally affected by small changes in saddle height/obsessive/have overthought this way too much:

Pd-r9100 14.6mm (pd-r9000 14.6mm)
Pd-r8000 15.8mm (pd-6800 16.5mm)
Pd-r7000 16.5mm (pd-5800 assumed 17.2mm)
Pd-r550/rs500 16.5mm
Pd-m9100 15.1mm (9000 15.0mm)
Pd-m9120 15.4mm (9020 15.4mm)
Pd-m8100 16.5mm (8000 16.6mm)
Pd-m8120 16.1mm (8020 16.9mm)
Pd-m540 17mm
Pd-m520 17mm
Pd-es600 17.2mm
Pd-ed500 17.5mm

Cheers for all that hippy - did a bit of digging on the train in and found a lot of info on model specific stack heights of shimano pedals. Will pop it in here later in case it’s useful for anybody else

Cheers but I think that’s just road pedals?

Anybody know what the difference in stack heights between spd and spd-sl is for the same serious (7000/8000 etc)?

Struggling to match bike fit between bikes with different pedals despite the same shoes (lake cx237 vs mx237)

Spring has truly sprung then! Haven’t seen any this year so far in the south west, hopefully they’ll make it over here as it warms up

Ooh. Pm’d!

How much drop do you want to run? I’m 6’3 with 82cm saddle height and ride a 61. Still gives about 11 cm drop but much more comfy to be more stretched out than doubled over reaching bars that are too low.

Nice. Thanks all, sounds like the Keswick could be a goer then. Do they need to be used with the handlerbar mount or could they be used with a rando rack type thing?

Does anybody have or use one of the Carradice handlebar bags? I like the look of the Keswick, but worried buckles might be a faff. Wondering if a super c might be more practical in use?

Random question - but anybody here keep bees in the SW (of the uk)?

This an example of an effective sugar tax policy then?

When it happens: black bomber should be it

Yeah fair, he’s got a little way to go yet to achieve Maldonado levels of cult status

Words will be had I’m sure when alonso figures out who tagged him

If you’re HSBC, that’s the same as us. Just desktop valuation based on size, age etc and since our offer was under that, no need for bank to survey it. I did ask at the time what their programme said it was worth but they wouldn’t have told me unless I asked.

Yeah. So far they’ve been properly useless to. Would not recommend.

We’ve just got our mortgage approved with first direct, and yep £300 fee there too.

Very fast and lovely ride, but they’re a summer race tyre. 25mm came up as 27mm on 17c internal rims. Perhaps bad luck but I had a spate of punctures with mine as the tread wore, so got fed up and binned them. As a tyre they’re very similar to vittoria corsa sc.

Any explanation? It’s not uncommon for people to walk out of butterfly houses with one on their backs but normally a member of staff checks. You’d think they’d notice and atlas moths are pretty chilled for them most part

Bloody hell, how do you lose that! Let them know, as if they’ve got escapees that big, others will be too. Hopefully they’re not keeping anything that’s an invasive threat.

As in liquid slurry run off?

Yep. Sadly even if it’s a tiny minority who are leaving crap around, it cumulatively still ends up with a lot of waste in natural spaces over a short period. Park rangers do a great job of cleaning up but they (and volunteers) can only do so much before you wonder if the damage is worth it. See any beach or river in the south west as an example.

Edit: I’ll add that banning people so you can use it exclusively for shooting birds isn’t a better use

Second for lake. I’ve got really narrow feet but struggled with empires pinching pinky toe knuckle, causing similar symptoms to yours. Pair of 237s allowed feet to spread out. Really comfy. Icebug insoles fit well with them, but some bar tape would prob work fine for a metatarsal pad and arch support

No problem. Fly fishing has a reputation for snobbiness and being expensive, which is true in part I guess. In reality though it’s a versatile and lightweight way of fishing for a lot of different species - not just trout and trout.

Most course fish will happily take surface and subsurface flies, and there’s abundant free or cheap fishing around the uk - including london! Check out a video on YouTube of a dude fly fishing for barbel on the wandle (which in itself is a great advert for rehabilitation of dying rivers)!

Hywell Morgan’s stuff is great too, loads of more advanced stuff on his own channel and the hardy’s videos are useful