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it could be stated without doubt that frames of this type are bought for speculative purpose as well as 'statement' pieces to be left on show

EFA. Same pricks buying up air-cooled 911s right now. Clueless.

Maybe they're bicycle enthusiasts, as opposed to money enthusiasts?
If you push the price of everything up, you'll eventually be poor.

wouldn't catch mecycling in that.

What about recycling?

What about hecycling? Or shecycling?
Or simply nipping down the pub/cafe/bistro on a* bike when it's a bit cold but not pissing down, not a formal occasion or windy or a race or you're intending to eat a soft-boiled egg or maybe a hard-boiled egg?

*Rat/Functional/Porn/Anti/HHS/Cross/MTB/Gravel/DH/Mixte/Tandem/Audax/BMX/Touring/SSCX

I can see its validity if you don't have room for a camera or prefer to use iPhone, and it's great that solutions like that exist (it's taken long enough), but £80 for 64GB of space vs £25 spent on an SDXC card is no contest for me.

Whats all this babble with taking iPads and card readers or macbook airs,
and then there's the storage issue - lol, wut?

To clarify; iPhones have fixed, limited storage. People keep things other than images on their phone, and once it's full (as it could easily become if you're going touring, having shot the odd video and whatnot), it's full (as far as taking pictures and keeping them goes).
Really sorry to have worn you out with all this discussion on this 'ere discusson forum.

@photoben

Bro do you even Airdrop? Or Photosync, which I've using for years before Apple finally got their act together.

Airdrop's great, if you've taken something with you to Airdrop to. Haven't used Photosync, will check it out.
Not sure why the photography-centric folks here are fighting against using a dedicated camera whilst touring - Bro do you even redundancy?

Unless you shoot every 5 minutes, it doesn't eat the battery, especially when you put it on airplane mode.

Touring is possibly one of the most likely situations in which even the most un-racer Grant Petersen worshipper would actually like to map their ride. And have a working phone for emergencies (there may come a time when you're injured, alone, need to make a call and don't actually have the faculties or time to fuck around in your iPhone settings).

Biggest advantage is being able to edit on the spot/later in the evening, a phone screen have a high enough resolution to see whether the photo you took is decent or not (easier to spot camera shake).

If you're editing pictures on the road (after each day's touring), and you really actually like taking pictures, and iPad Mini + SD card reader or MacBook Air isn't too much to take with you and will be far easier on your eyes than fucking about on an iPhone (not to mention how difficult it is to transfer images off an iPhone without an internet connection). Oh, and then there's the storage issue.
An added bonus of having a separate camera is that you can (just about) afford to drop it, get it wet, or lose it. I'm not a fan of putting everything into one device, mainly for that reason.

He did says touring

Yep, the one cycling activity where you probably don't want photography to eat through the battery life of your GPS/phone/web device.

Fwiw I prefer cameras that have two strap lugs to enable use of a shoulder strap worn across the body (shoulder straps looped to and from the same lug are miserable). Means the camera can stay close to hand, and dangle out of the way when riding.

What are you gonna say when somebody asks that question, that has been asked a hundred times in this thread already

OP asked for a camera. Not a smartphone with a particularly outstanding camera. These days I don't think it's necessary to point out that 'your phone has a camera on it, you know!'

they are good when you are in a hurry to take some pics as reference and / or to use it as a different kind of scanner, but as a proper compact camera, not my cup of tea.

I agree; to me they're basically 'better than no camera at all'.
I accept that people have launched photography careers off the back of shooting with phones, but they remain unwieldy and awkward to me. They're light, but the volume button on the iPhone requires a firm press (usually moving the phone) to take a shot - otherwise you're left with poking the screen (always moving the phone). I also find the iPhone too thin to properly grip, and generally slippery.
Accessories that attempt to 'fix' these appalling ergonomics usually render the phone larger than something truly compact (like a Canon S120) or demand to be attached/removed every time you need to take a picture.
Those are just a few of the reasons I prefer a separate camera.

I would rather pay to get a real camera...

Don't blame you. I really don't like taking pictures with phones, especially if moving or in a hurry.

As above. Cheap dashcam up front, Fly6 out back. If I rode on the streets for a living, I'd probably have that kind of setup.

agreed, it's a design icon
was in the sablon area of Brussels, and that seat/stool combo was no less than 14,000 euros in the shops that had>

What it has become is the default 'top trump' bike of people who think '73 Carrera RSs and Helmut Newton prints are rare collectibles that show off their great taste. Just like the Eames chair.

Practically every visit to a track bike blog these days will yield you several pictures of a (riderless, studio-bound) Cinelli Laser. I've seen two in real life in the last 18 months without even looking for them. It's not even like they show up in interesting cycling films being ridden by people who have anywhere near the capabilities to do them justice. Considering what folk are daring to build these days, buying one is almost tragically unimaginative.

As for the chair & ottoman - The real deal costs four and a half grand (in GBP or USD), brand new from Vitra or Herman Miller. Anyone asking €14k is angling for stupid tourists (or people who work in finance).

#worthit imo.
The Laser on the other hand is fast becoming the bicycle equivalent of this.

I have to say, I like bikes and all but in this age of five-figure bikes both new and old, once it gets past five grand sterling I just think 'fuck that shit, I'd rather buy a Ducati instead.'

Sony RX100 III
Ricoh GR
Canon Powershot G7X
Lumix LX100
Lumix LX7

for starters.

Re: toe overlap.
172.5 crank arms on a Large v3 here too.
Easton EC70X fork is 45mm rake, and I get a touch of toe overlap on flat pedals + mudguards, but none with SPDs + no guards.
Versatile bikes, but if toe overlap's that much of a problem you should probably buy a different frameset for your uses.

Perhaps ask (them) during opening hours...

How odd. CycleSurgery & Evans both used to sell Sidi too. P'raps Sigma's the place now?

Any Sidi retailer will be able to obtain them for you.
I've only ever had Megas, and Condor actually held them in stock when I bought them.

Interior of that 911 suggests it's an older car with 964 exterior parts. For a while it was popular to 'update' basic 3.0s and 3.2s to a 964-look.

Ouch. What a way to go. Not to worry though, some fool will probably give 'em £20k for it...

Sidi's 'wide' is most other manufacturer's 'regular'.
Go try a pair of Giro 'HV' fit shoes on, if you can find them at a shop near you.

It was fixed, it was on a mountain, it's a bike.
Whip-skidding on gravel is fun for a while, but I soon realised it was the wrong tool for the job.

Cleaned my road bike in a brand-new bath not long after we moved in to a new (newly renovated) apartment.
Was careful, stripped everything, laid a towel in the bath to protect it from fork-ends, pedals, etc.
Bike cleaned, bath cleaned. All good.
Feeling like I was on a roll, I decide to clean out the fridge. Removed all the huge glass shelves, took them into the bathroom. First one slipped out of my hand, into the bath. Noise was absolutely deafening within a tiny fully-tiled room.
Closed my eyes.
When I opened them, the shelf was still in one piece! Yay for toughened glass! Lifted it out of the bath, and there it was. 50p-sized chip out of the enamel, right in the centre of the flat bottom. I was nearly sick.

Bike goes to the jetwash these days.