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it's this stuff tester, snap on, so no sticky tape http://www.acycles.co.uk/hutchinson-rim-tape-70020mm-pack-of-2-9272.html , so you reckon 20mm?

C'mon people, you need these^^^^^the amount of stuff I've had pinched over time down to lack of security! all the more so with these bling caps. Safety in numbers.

Just you now mate, i'm out for the security bolt, i'll search ebay etc to see if there's any other options (there must be) and will let you know what i find

tester i've told you the above in the paypal message, if you've not seen that, you now know :) cheers and repped

jb what seatmast topper you using? or are you gonna do that cool thing that stanridge guy does?

also, well done on all the other descisions

got a question and don't know where best to ask, here's probably the best place:

rim tape, i have velocity a23 rims 18mm inner rim width and 23mm outer, what width rim tape do i need? i assume 18mm?

^ what cranks are you using?

my way of looking at it is this, you want it to be fast (at this point i don't understand why no crabon? but forget that), look at the fastest cyclists in the world, they all use rim brakes and some use di2 and some mechanical.

I'd defo go for rim brakes and then go mechanical with the frame di2 ready, the reason being that the pro peloton have dedicated mechanics who set up bikes all day long, not riding them, like you should/will be. Then if you really feel that mechanical is just too stone age for you, BAM, sell necessary bits of group and set up for di2

That's my reasoning, plus with the time spent on the frame being built you could probably get individual parts for cheaper and/or in the x-mas sales and/or with x-mas discount codes

PM coming for cranks

Might be interested in the bottom bracket and chainring if lkhgfbdnj doesn't want them, pending price

2nds on that 75 chainring if Dakin falls through Apollo?

black hubs and spokes with gunmetal rims does look good but when some components are black too, tbh i'd return the hub to hubjub and get the silver version, they should refund you the cost and if you ask may give you a fiver of the front hub...

for comparison:

i agree with tester muchly, may i point you in the direction of my thread where i have a un55 or a tange ln3922 for sale...

http://www.lfgss.com/thread116579.html

i apoligise for the shameless plug

have bad luck

is more realistic indra ;)

thanks drgslrnn, makes the descision harder, as do you pony, gah!

might get on down to the skidding thread and see what the durability is like on refuses, if it's good then i might get them, cheaper than hardshells and gp4000's too...

TM what are the gp4000s like for puncture protection?

i'm thinking of either going gp4000s front/hardshell rear or twin maxxis refuses, does anyone have experience of the refuses in the wet?

well they are planet x rims so internal nipples on internal nipple rims will be what he's using, i think, i don't have any experience of them so i'm probably not the best person to ask

search for the "yellow beast" thread in current projects, polka dot gives a pretty thorough tutorial on what to do with the rim if you want to keep it

32's aren't faster, but more comfortable, also pros don't ride solely on the side of the road in the winter with road muck from all over the place, i ride 28's in the winter and find them to be a happy balance between comfort/security and speed

Rim wise i'd definitely reccomend something wider, creates a better profile and gives better handling, kinlin adhn (£15 @ hubjub) if it's box-section you're after or velocity a23's if you're not fussed with box section and would like something a bit lighter (£30 @ hubjub)

^ this is the reason i left them out, there is probably a few more deals to be had but i'm not going to trawl hubjub for them, still...

that is from a wiggle "expert" who probably has no idea what fork rake even is, indra is right, the axle to crown on these is a bit more than usual carbon track forks but the rake is definitely 35mm

tifosi do make 45mm rake road forks which is probably what the guy is thinking off

Hubjub having a clearance of a few things, good deals for sweet fixeh skidders:
phil wood 108mm iso bb, perfect for your sweet, sweet njs cranks http://www.hubjub.co.uk/index.php/store/bearings/phil-wood-bb-ti-detail
buttery smooth hubs yo http://www.hubjub.co.uk/index.php/store/hub/phil-wood-track-rear-140-detail
you don't to drill your handcrafted njs forks... http://www.hubjub.co.uk/index.php/store/brakes/dia-comp-track-brake-front-detail

Hubjub having a clearance of a few things, good deals for sweet fixeh skidders:
phil wood 108mm iso bb, perfect for your sweet, sweet njs cranks http://www.hubjub.co.uk/index.php/store/bearings/phil-wood-bb-ti-detail
buttery smooth hubs yo http://www.hubjub.co.uk/index.php/store/hub/phil-wood-track-rear-140-detail
you don't to drill your handcrafted njs forks... http://www.hubjub.co.uk/index.php/store/brakes/dia-comp-track-brake-front-detail

A Botch job fix for that is to get a quill stem adapter one for whatever size forks you have, looks like 1 1/8, if so, profile design do a decent one, get the star nut in the forks currently out (easiest way is to drill it out) then put the adapter in, cut the amount off the top that is over the stem, leave a small gap between the top of the stem and top of the adapter so you can put a spacer on the steerer and then put the top cap on and tighten the bolt, it should work

45mm rake. no joke.

35mm rake, definitely not 45mm

You definitely look like you got one of the better ones jasper, forks wise I may have a set of Tifosi pistas in a few days, got to do a bit of pm'ing tomorrow morning, alpinas can be drilled, they don't recommend it but a load of guys on Helsinki (or somewhere Scandinavian) have done it with no problems.

If you're looking to ship your forks on, speak to dmayn19 (fairly sure that's his username) he was after some short rake forks with a wide (50mm) crown for his dosnoventa

really nice frame mate, i think the frame will actually turn out to be a bit of a bargain when you take out all the other costs, are the forks full carbon?

also, that bb looks to be needing one of these http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cyclus-cassette-tool-campagnolo/ a campagnolo/miche bottom bracket tool, lbs should have one, if not someone on the forum in london will probably have one too

stunning

thread merge with this http://www.lfgss.com/thread108685.html to eastern european track bikes???

i actually got neg-repped for this...

was thinking along the lines that most of these frames were made when it was the soviet union, so eastern european track bikes/frames would encompass both, especially as there is a fair few now russian frames in the polish frames thread