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I've heard that, but you get free shippig on orders over £100...which is most things

mines taken a proper prolonged soaking and kept me dry. Like the softshell I keep washing to a bare minimum and when I do I wash them with it's with Nikwax softshell proof which reproofs the water repellent qualities a treat.

Yeah I've heard of this stuff sounds good, someone at Rapha told me they where bring their own version out in a few months, which should be great...expensive great.

I think I'll go for the Pro then, the classic soft-shell will be to warm of everyday use, and the rain jacket has to specific a job to be of significant use, cheers for the advice.

I think trainers will have to do, might try get some slimmer ones, my asics really are chunky

The rain jacket no?

Also, I'll ask this here cus its kinda clothes-y but if your not using cleats and cycling shoes, but have cages and straps, what is the most common thing to ride in, I've been using trainers but they're fucking annoying, really wide and shiz

It's not "packable"..

But it is a fantastic jacket..

Yeah I think I'll go for that one, anyone know to what extent it is waterproof, will I get soaked if a quick shower occurs?

Too much choice, like the look of the pro but want something I can take off and keep in my jersey if I don't need it.

Rapha must have tightened up :) they also gave me the 10% after I had bought the bib shorts, not much use now eh? Probably just a further incentive (as if it were needed) to buy more stuff

£60

You're just rubbing it in that you have one

get one, and then the other

it's going to get warmer so would consider the rain jacket right now, and pro team jacket when it gets colder

Exceptional shout, thanks

Does anyone know if the pro team can fold up little?

As an added indenture I just got a welcome to rapha 10% discount great timing after i just bought 3 things!

I know, I wish I coul get both.

Cheers, got a shortsleeve classic jersey and long base layer, I'm tending towards the protean for its versitility but womdeing, does anyone know if it can be folder up, I want something I can put in a jersey pocket if need be

Which one would people go for:
Pro team jacket
Classic soft shell
Rain jacket
I have the funds for one but am torn between them, just a good all round jacket is what I'm after, an suggestions would be great

...thank you hangs head

Another noob question from yours truly, but how do I stop androp lever from rattling around when not in use? Like the ones superjoe has on his lovely Bridgestone?

Haha thank you, I'm not even new! Just haven't been on a long ride in a while. Way ahead I you though and all search revealed was track related gearing, I'll go for a 72 test tide

why no serious answer

Going on my first properly long ride in a while, I'm gonna have a stab at it fixed but was wondering what ratio you would all advise running, I commute on about 92" but its only a couple of flat kilometres, and I'm riding about 120km on this ride, any thoughts?

Haha are they Adidas Gazelles?

On dished rear wheels, yup, I know you're supposed to do it the other way. But I definitely got this from somewhere reputable, probably Jobst Brandt. I'll check the book.

Yeah it is dished, only one side is threaded, that makes me feel much better

Normally you would have the leading spokes on the inside of the hub flange and the trailing spokes on the outside, as it's slightly stronger, but I doubt it'll make any practical difference.

Damn I was so happy I had got the valve in a rectangle and in line with the logo, next time ill do that

Excellent, don't forget to install Brakeless for the full jap experience.

Yeah I think ill give that one a miss

Ah sorry it's a goldtec, not as cool, but I'm getting a Nagasawa frame and am going all japanese

Dura Ace rear, Phil front?

I'll just post this;

I know ;) working on the front one now, because I want to keep it intact and so need to buy a new rim £150 in hand it'll be the next thing to buy

A gravity defying wheel, built it yesterday in anticipation of some nicer weather, on the bike and off for a test run

testing testing