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@nick warner
I totally believe you about the ambiguous waving the copper did. I can just imagine how this technique would provide a jumped up little cunt a good reason to smirk.yeah it looked well practiced!
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@ youramericanlover - 2nd lesson learnt was that in this instance I should not have stopped - he was on foot, and the lethargy with which he shouted 'stop' suggested he barely expected me to actually pull over. perhaps he stands there all day shouting stop at cyclists waiting for one stupid enough to actually do it!
at the time I said I didn't have any id on me, he was clearly very annoyed by this and I thought I was gonna be able to get away with giving a fake name, but then he said that he would need to phone someone who could verify my address and description, otherwise he's have to arrest me!
anyway, at the time I was still thinking an appeal might be theasable so I just caved and gave him my dets. I don't think I'll ever be a bold enough person to be as defiant as the guy in the video above! wish I was though.
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oh good, when the sun comes up and the decent people of the interweb rise a lot of excellent points and helpful advice start to accumulate.
I was both wheels over the line, track standing (not in my favour, i know) and waiting for the lights to turn.
first lesson learnt
The reason I felt some sense of injustice (much to many forumers disgust, it seems) is because the officer in question was standing at the pedestrian crossing on my left as I was waiting, and he waved me through the lights in a very confusing 'carry on' sort of gesture. I gave him a bewildered scowl and proceeded to edge past hime (assuming i was in his way or something) at which point he yelled stop.
I stopped - second lesson learnt
I attempted to reason with him, saying I was not going to proceed and that I only did because he waved me on, and he argued that I was already running through the lights and that he was waving me over to the side.
quite clearly on this occasion I will paying up.
the smugness came in the form of him trying to entertain me with tails of horrendous accidents, which was theatrical, insensitive, and totally unnecessary given the lack of severity of my crime. and also his boasting about how many fixed penalty tickets he gets given per day to hand out to the likes of me!
thanks for your helpful input
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simply trying to liven up a rather dull request for advise with a little foul language and humour. I humbly apologise.
the relentless monologue of self-involved grief and torment I have forced upon you was ill considered. next time I will think twice before allowing my wheels to cross that line, and more importantly I will think thrice about allowing the inanities of my struggle with the long arm of the law to enter the sacred grounds of your home via the support of your computer screen.
you're right, there is enough corn popping on this forum without me providing stimulus for the likes of you, oh dancing james.
stop being a moaning cum bucket,...shut the fuck up.
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If you can't do the time don't do the crime.
Stop being a moaning cum bucket,...shut the fuck up and stop jumping red lights if you don't want to get caught. Or look around to make sure there are no police.
not moaning lynx, just seeking advice from those who might have been in a similar position.
as the old saying goes, if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. don't think my question justified any hostility, so in the words of a man much wiser than myself...
stop being a moaning cum bucket,...shut the fuck up
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"RED means ‘Stop’. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway"
Is that clear enough advice?
thanks dancing james. crystal clear advice.
unfortunately on this occasion I was seeking advice from those who may have pursued an appeal against a minor traffic offence fixed penalty fine, not advice on how to avoid further such fines, or on how to conduct oneself in the manner of a forum douchebag.
input appreciated none the less.
Edmundro - you're right, my one saving grace is that fortunately I have that ever reassuring thought of thousands of red lights jumped without persecution :) thanks for the reminder
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Just got mugged for thirty quid by some smug fuck policeman on Bishopsgate for 'running a red light' (I was just over the line)
Anyone ever actually bothered to appeal one of these? would be interested to know what to expect, and also whether I run the risk of running of more fines through trying?
I know its only thirty quid but A) I'm a student B) I didn't do anything wrong and C) he was a cunt.
any help appreciated,
nick
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god damn this being too short for me...