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But I'm afraid that I have missed the boat. I still need someone that is going to interact with uoeno

It is a helmet.

Help is still needed.

Hello,

I want to purchase an item which sadly, can only be collected and I am not able to do that. I'm searching for a person that could pick up an item from "Uoeno"( new cross, South east London) and drop it of at the nearest post office. NOTE: If I were able- I would have already arranged a courier to pick it up, but it can't be done ATM.

I hope that a fellow fixed gear rider could help me out by doing that. It would be excellent if you were selling something and could just swing by, so that you wouldn't waste your time on this.

Hello,

I want to purchase an item which sadly, can only be collected and I am not able to do that. I'm searching for a person that could pick up an item from "Uoeno"( new cross, east London) and drop it of at the nearest post office. NOTE: If I were able- I would have already arranged a courier to pick it up, but it can't be done ATM.

I hope that a fellow fixed gear rider could help me out by doing that. It would be excellent if you were selling something and could just swing by, so that you wouldn't waste your time on this.

I, obviously, will pay for the shipping costs and the item.

Please PM me.

Hey,

Ueno doesn't post , so I'm searching for a bern watts size medium helmet ( EPS ). PM me, postage would be necessary

Yup, didn't spot those reinforcements, they're speczakaz.

Looking at the dropouts of your frame- it seems that it's just an older model (~60-70s), it also might be a sprint, the geometry wasn't so tight back then..

As to you, shl:

Sadly, your crankset was not made in Kalashnikov factory, because they did not make any bicycle parts.
It prob "Xарьков" or "ИP3"

HVZ wasn't my only prediction, but please, don't lose your previous opinion, why has it changed slightly and from straight-on objecting to everything and stating that they were made in a Kalashnikov factory, you went into considering my wiseness based on your assumptions- the factory was specified, AFAIK, kalashnikov's factory was not called IRZ, why are you still considering that they were made in it? Because there is a slight possibility? Well, then, your argument is invalid.

As I predicted. Looks like the fork is a rekord's type, but really, you'll never know..

I wouldn't do that if I were you- you just got to be slightly into it;
There isn't as much information on the internet as you can learn from people who rode these bicycles and their trainers.
If you have anything to ask- feel free to write me a PM.

Seriously? Where could I get my facts from rather than trainers and people, who are interested in that?!
I strongly suggest you to stop- it's not funny anymore. From info. about what was made in poland (which was irrelevant to the discussion) and how was I wrong you went in to considering my knowledge of the world and who KNOWS IT ALL!

Argumentum ad personam.

Well, to do that once and for all- he should take detailed photos so that the crankarm could be compared to a non-kalashnikov crank!

People have been greeting me everywhere I go since this discussion! Thank you internet!

Why did you defend your statement in such a rude manner then?

Are you serious about the imported equipment?!
G.Umaras 1988 Seoul olympic games, guess what he is riding for- you guessed it! Soviet Union! And as far as I know, Cinelli Lasers were not manufactured in Kharkov nor Kalashnikov factory. And yes, as you can see, the bicycle is equiped with a campagnolo crankset!

Once again- your argument is invalid

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_atrK-jBKJKY/TPMEwKmTojI/AAAAAAAAN54/CCtjjuJfPA8/s1600/GINTAUTAS%2BUMARAS%252C%2Bgold%2Bmedal%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bmen%2Bs%2B4km%2Bpursuit%2Band%2Bteam%2Bpursuit%2Bat%2Bthe%2B1988%2BOlympic%2Bgames%2Bin%2BSeul..jpg

The vast majority of sportsmen were riding bicycles made in Kharkov, look at what trainers in russia have: pretty much everything is XB3, or CKTB.

I emphasised the equipment intended for sport, because 90% if not more, were XB3.

Lets not argue about a thing that is irrelevant- I am not trying to prove you wrong, there were other bicycle related factories, but lets face it, if your frame and crankset (presumably) came from the eastern part of soviet union:
1)It's probably from Kharkov.
2)It's definately not from Kalashnikov factory- you sort of argumented against it yourself.

I may be wrong (quote from my earlier post): "This crankset could actually be a copy of campa's super record crankset made elsewhere", but if we're talking about a crankset that was made in soviet union - by comparing quantities of the production and where they were used, it's a chance of minimum 80% that they were made in Kharkov and there ,my dear, were no Kalashnikov factories.

P.S. Scorch made a good point.

To make a long story short- pretty much everything in Soviet Union (obv. bicycle related and intended for sport use) was made by XB3. I seriously doubt that they would have imported or differently acquired a crankset that is not from Kharkov, because for higher class sportsman they could have easily gotten real campagnolo s.r. pista's. Again, I do not state that Polish copies or frames were not used, when you are talking about thousands and comparing them to few (again presumably)( by saying that Polish manufacturers are not diminished), pointing those few out and basing your opinion on them is not a very reasonable move.

P.S.S. Just so that the irrelevant nonsence chain would not end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAXoBcCPuA

That's a Russell's Teapot. Onus of proof is on you in this case.

Well played,but that was just a slightly provocative agitation.

The problem is that the manufacturing of bicycle parts int. for sport took place in Kharkov! There are lots of hypothetical opinions that Ukrainian cranks were produced in Italy and only the final touches were made to them in Kharkov, should we believe in this too? Which hypothesis should we believe then?

P.S. My suggestion is to wait for SHL to answer, he may end this! Only if he does not lack knowledge, though :?

P.S.S. Russell's teapot idea does not really aply here- I do not state that I know the absolute truth about every thing that was manufactured in the SU.

Your objections are based on the fact that I may not know as much as I may be pretending to know, but that's really irrelevant! There is not a lot of information when it comes to 'where bic. related production was manufactured'.

http://goo.gl/maps/axm1c

There, I marked where the factories are. They are quite far away from each other (where the crankset would be made and then the bicycle assembled). If the quantity was normal and they were manufactured in the kalashnikov factory- I'm sure that by now they wouln't have ceased to exist (there is no information about Kalashnikov factory production related to bicycle components).

SHL, please, take a close up photo of the right crankarm. 1.746km is a lot for a crankset that is identical to the ones that were made locally.

Well then prove me wrong! As far as I know- bicycle parts and bicycles that were intended for sport use were only made in Kharkov.

You're welcome to object, but objections based on things that are unlikely to be are irrelevant in this case. Im very open to reasonable objections, and I will acknowledge my fault if a such an objection appears.

Your objection is not based on anything, therefore- it's worthless. Sure there were some other factories for eg. in Belarus, but they did not make anything but tourist bicycles such as "Aist" (There is a chance that it was made in the kalashnikov factory too then- this bicycle was made from recycled barrels). Bicycles and parts that were intended for sport use were only made in those factories. That is not an opinion, it's a fact.

Because they (HVZ and ЦКТБ) were the only companies to manufacture equipment for bicycles. This crankset could actually be a copy of campa's super record crankset made elsewhere, but if it was made in the Soviet Union- it was manufactured in the HVZ -kharkov bicycle factory (definately not kalashnikov). I have seen some cranksets without the engravings, but that doesn't mean that it was made in a completely different region and in a factory ,that made non related to bicycle compoents.

P.S. I have seen some cranksets with no logos because of rubbing.

EDIT: There are loads of 'special order' components (made by hvz) with no engravings, logos etc., were they manufactured in the kalashnikov factory too?

That's the problem- it's quite relevant:

'some guy' said to him that they were made in a 'kalashnikov' factory, that narrows the search- they were manufactured in the soviet union, and in soviet union only HVZ (XB3) or their associates made cranksets of this type- there were "Xарьков" ,"ИP3" engravings on them. And to end this 'if the price were right';'it could have been like that- they had the machinery' etc.- if they were able to manufacture groupsets with which their bicycles were equiped, why then manufacture something elsewhere? It's surely plausible, but very unlikely to have been that way: a Kalashnikov factory did not exist in Kharkov (all the bicycles- both takhion and hvz, their components were manufactured there). So why then they relocated their supply of cranksets elsewhere when everything- from low end models to top notch takhions were manufactured in kharkov?

P.S. There are loads of information about HVZ and ЦКТБ (they made takhions) products.

EDIT: ^ in master's post you can see a Xарьков crankset ,which is identical to the 'kalashnikov' crankset that the owner has.

Is that all? HVZ (XB3) bicycles were mostly equiped with their own "Xарьков" ,"ИP3"
cranksets, but somehow in a non related to cycling factory ,they exclusively made some cranksets identical to other mass produced and widely used ones? Why then, to my amazement, there is no information about such products of their inebriated mechanics;engineers?

Sadly, your crankset was not made in Kalashnikov factory, because they did not make any bicycle parts.
It prob "Xарьков" or "ИP3"

What do you all suggest getting: bern watts hard hat or the EPS version?

Hello everyone,

I'm after a set of nitto b2522aa bars. The condition doesn't matter as long as they're structurally intact.

Write me a PM

I'm in search of a pdw bar basket (the title says it all...).

The condition of paint etc. does not matter, PM me.
Postage would be necessary

What 'bar is this ?

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