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Really sorry to hear that Mark.

Do you get the feeling they were lambs to the slaughter? "Let's amp up the chat and see what people are collectively up for"... A sort of dry run?

Oof!

Tacked on a km so I’m creaking up to 7.5 this morning. Will I hit 10 before February!!!? Unlikely as I feel my old foe runner’s knee creeping up to say hello. Lovely soggy brain clearer though.

I’ve got the standard creaky crunchy thing happening on my down stroke crakside. Out of the saddle so that narrows it down to EVERY OTHER JOINT ON THE BIKE! I’m going with the tactic of pressing on until it fails somewhere mortally and I get aluminium splinters in my arse while flying into a bin.

Holy shit. That two and two coming together in a satisfying way.

This quote from the Gruniad filled me with a gleeful sense of schadenfreuder:

None of the original lawyers who represented Trump in his first impeachment trial are expected to return. That could leave only Rudy Giuliani, part of Trump’s personal legal team, and Alan Dershowitz, who is supporting Trump on the grounds of free speech

I mean it’s currently unified the house more than any previous impeachment apparently.

So how many repubs do they need for this impeachment to carry? 7 more?

The actual stench in there after a few hours! Like a locker room!

I’m trying to think what costs me 35 quid a month... insurance. I guess smoking would be loads more expensive.

Very sad.

Outdoor alcohol consumption banned in Scotland.

Have at it kids - it’s an open goal...

Although it will look something like this presumably...

Already a bigger turnout than Trump’s inauguration then.

Ok he was first.

I don’t think we disagree. Neither of us wants to see anyone get away with it.

You’re right. I’d hope that these variables would come into account in court or sentencing? So surely if you dress up as a mech warrior, carry bolt cutters and have an internet history of spewing bile and fantasising about cracking skulls you’re hit harder than someone who has a warped perspective on the electoral system and just found themselves caught up in it?

In a nutshell that’s the whole 21st century right there.

Good news is - we can have both. Surely the biggest (potential) miscalculation of the insurrection was that the crowd was gathered and effectively deployed by people who didn’t expect repercussions and the crowd because of the organiser’s fervour didn’t imagine repercussions either. As I say - book em all.

Oof.

It’s true. That’s right.... but as I’m saying it shouldn’t diminish personal responsibility. If someone chooses to be part of a group where mob violence isn’t only likely but is a de facto stance, then - when it all kicks off - they fail to opt out, they have - by definition - opted in.

Yeah they just shouldn’t have let her in.

I absolutely do think. For every scrapper in a riot or a footy crowd there’s fuck loads of people who noped out because they’re not excited by violence, showing off, or plain stupid. I’m not denying the momentum of crowd mentality I just have no truck in anyone who acts as part of something like that ducking personal responsibility

I’m a beardy. Have been for 20 years. I’m almost as disappointed that all the fascists have them as i was when all the footballers grew them.

Common sense and basic morality would prevent most people from acting with violence at the head of a mob. Most of us have been on protests at various times. Most of those protests will have hosted (involuntarily or otherwise) fringe factions with different intentions. Most will have seen the point where protest tips over into something more furious or dangerous and it is that point that we have a choice to make: Distance from the illegality and remain in basic protest mode, go home or join in.

People who chose to join in have nobody to blame but themselves. Not even the president (who is in his own way culpable of course)

Throw the book at them. I hope they regret it.