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No your probably right @anidel, have you taken your gillott out for a spin yet?

Not sure yet @RgrahamH and thanks
The paintwork is in good Nick albeit not the most delicate, it's as if it's been wrapped in plastic.

Note the sleeved brake bridge. I happen to have a long reynolds seat post to compensate for the smaller frame.

I didn't want a long rangy tourer but a frame built for proper road racing.
Frame number 491178 stamped on both rear dropouts and the starer.


The seat lug is in good nick, no damage from over size seat posts by the looks of it.

Beautiful fork crown

I have three A.S. Gillott's all with Spearpoint lugs, none of them have original paint work, 2 Track/Path and one road with 27.1/4 wheels all built up and specked with period components as much as possible and all ready to ride.
However this is not enough, i need an A.S. Gillott Fleur De Lis in my life. This elusive Gillott will have tight clearances and a shortish wheel base, 23" seat tube, original paint work and ideally pre 1950.
Thats a big ask but my latest frame purchase fits most of the above criteria.
Its a Fleur De Lis 22" with paint work from the 1970's.
It arrived yesterday and the first impressions on opening the packaging were good, you got that whiff off "old garage, oily mechanical smell"]. I love that.!

Apologies for slow reply just seen this now @7ven.
Yer we had a civilised evening at cafe rouge, (No swimming pool antics) we ate drank and slept.
It was good to meet everyone and thanks for your support, it was much appreciated.
Looking forward to the next pre 1950's ride

No pics from me I'm afraid. But thanks everyone for your patience, we found it tough going but satisfying that we made it.

Last minute tinkering, changed a cotter pin, pumped up the tyres, adjusted the new saddle and I'm ready. Shame you couldn't make it @TheShipwright.

Yes I have but I'm to scared to bring it just in case it rains

No!
Not after last time....

Has it arrived?

Also looking forward to this.
My Wife is meeting me there and we have booked a hotel so can chill once in Cambridge.

Please no rain! really don't want to be fitting plastic mudguards come Sunday morning.
By the sounds of it @7ven I think it best we add a hammer to the list of tools for those pesky cotter pins!

Very nice @anidel
The 50 represents the year built, the rest will be the number of frames built since 1945.
They had sold well over a thousand frames by 1950, mine is 512503,
So you must have missed of a number somewhere.
Greatvalue to.
Are you bringing it next week?

That's fine the rides on Sunday.?

Yer that was pretty scary!
I thought my mate borrowing my bike was going to go flying past me through the on coming traffic and then over the verge on the other side of the main road. My bike would have suffered terribly!

I have been commuting on steel rims all year with a normal set of brake pads and they have been fine.
Saying that I to am worried about the weather as I don't have appropriate mudgaurds.

And Yours @7ven, have you repaired your loose cotter pin on the Hobbs yet.
Or are you going to trump us all and turn up on a fixed trike.?
I don't know about anybody else but i will definitely need to bring tools on this ride, to save us from doubling up here is a list of bits I'm bringing.
Pump
tyre levers
Multi tool
selection of imperial spanners (not sure of sizes as they are in the shed)

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Great!
I guess the kitchen renovation can wait and who MOTs a car on a Sunday anyway.
Bring the Mercian @TheShipwright.?

Wow that was quick..!

Nice to see you again Pete and thanks again for the sadde.
See you on the 22nd

No bother, the top tube looks to be fine.
1947 is early for a Blue Riband, none the less it has "Superbe" lug work so it must have been the top of the line model.
Its a great colour! a good polish, change the derailleur and your good to go.

Yer thats the one, i have been meaning to post it for ages but not had the chance, as he nips out to the garage to check the top tube!
Lovely Hobbs, nice sweep to the handle bars too, what age is it, I'm guessing 49,50?

I picked this up a couple of months ago from Ebay thinking it might be an A.S Gillott
Its not pre 1950's i know but this thread is my new go to thread and a favourite of mine, so here it is,
First impressions
Crappy paintwork and as usual nothing hidden under the cheap car spray like original transfers or paint, the rust is just superficial and came of with the paint.

it looked promising, Nervex Pro lugs,
Nice Nitor saddle, Campag pedals and steel Campag stem.

Rounded rear brake bridge,

Albeit Gillott's would normally have a sleeved brake bridge for strength, this didn't.
My first impressions were that maybe the frame had been originally built as a path frame with horizontal drop outs and the hole for the brake bolt had been drilled out at a later date.
The forks added to my suspicions as they were of the rounded type normally associated with path/track frames.
Note the detailing in the crown. A.S Gillott used this design in a lot of their frames. The crown itself is a Davis crown used on Holdsworth and other builders around in the 50's, the Accles and Pollock fork steerer is also something A.S Gillott used as according to M. Stevens they preferred.



Agrati rear drops outs, the front drop outs are Simplex!
Im starting to think now that the forks are not a match for the frame.
It turns out that the frame is very low (centre of gravity) if thats the term, i didn't really notice this until my pedal had started crashing into the ground when riding and turning so definitely built as a road bike and not a path frame.
The frame number "252" unfortunately was not anything like a A.S Gillott but surprisingly the fork was stamped with the same number, so a match at least.

So not a Gillott then but i have bought some Continental tubs and fitted them to the Fiamme/Campag wheels and it makes for a good road bike, though I'm not sure about the Campag handlebar levers they take some getting used to.