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Like I bang on about Bullitts being good, and I am biased, but generally Bullitts are specced with stuff thats known to work well, in eurorpean conditions without much bother*
*nexus 5 speed and e6100 shit the bed like annoyingly regularly compared to e6000 and e8000 were much more reliable but noisy.
The cargo fork issue I bang on about a lot. The main fix is cargo bike companies need to band together their r&d money and get a decent cargo specific fork together. 50mm stanchions, open bath oil damping, big fat bushs and a switchable air spring to quickly adjust between unladen, one kid and all the kids.
At that time I will change my tune and Reccomend cargos with suspension. Until then, buy rigid steel fork with big tyres and move to a country with roads fit for purpose.
Real talk, bullitt maintenance, grease your rose joint steering ball with good grease before and after every winter. Check motor bolts. Check steering linkages for loose parts, there is more redundancy than on load 75 (which go floppy and vague within 1000 miles, though failure is rare and used down to not being assembled right by shop or end user), adjust steering bush washers (never over tighten to make up for wear). Check headsets especially upper rear headset, just whack a load of grease in it, helps stops watery sitting on the bearing.
Freehub on casette bikes is an excellent piece of kit, don't put a hope on it thinking your upgrading it! Needs taken apart once a year and cleaned regressed with the nice light freehub grease.
You'll find hub, headset, steering bearings that are supplied stock are very good. Rear spokes vary between you'll get 10k hard use with no issues and having to rebuild the damn wheel after 500 miles (use sapim strong is enough, e strong sort of fits hub holes), keep the alex supra rim, there is no better 26" rim available. Try ryde/rigida hd 30 or 40 is next best rim available. -
£6k for deore 10 and£7k for envolio hd.
The deore is a good price, usual fork issues abound but possibly good cable steering, well designed family box, matching 20" wheels, relaxed riding position and knowing cannondale, healthy dealer margins and lots of dealers will be forced into stocking one
= will be lots on discount soon.Ugly but probably very practical for family users. Personally find most suv/cross type vehicles ugly but millions of folk still buy them. You can now get a toyota yaris cross! Like a regular yaris but on taller suspension and black plastic bits on the side, toyota will sell loads of them.
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Yeah try it out.
Beware muc off wet and urban and other veg oil based lube, causes the chain to become very sticky and reduces the amount of sideways flex is meant to have to give good gear shifting. Come across loads of bikes where the only thing wrong with it is needs all the old congealed chain lube off it. -
This is common place tbh. I build a fair number of custom gravel and mtb, and most of thrm will make a noise under load in the easiest casette gear, especially with these 50t+ jobs.
Some rings make less noise, some rings last longer.
Try a 3mm or 6mm offset ring if its really bad, but beware that they always make noise when new. Once ring has some gritty miles on it they usually become quiet enough to be a non issue.Hope evo cranks are good, a mftr that has always shared technical info and made it as clear as poss which part is the right one for the job. Unlike so many other that make it a right pita.
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In many industries is normal to believe there will be a procedure for hearing and effectively dealing with reports and complaints and you wouldn't naturally go to the police.
Hospitals are strange places though, many friends and family work all over the Uk, some trusts are reasonably good at dealing with issues (not talking about the magnitude of the cases in question) and others are incredibly bad where the only logical course of action is for the complainent to just leave and move to another job, whilst the person in the wrong just carries on.
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This is a problem with ltn and other quickly implemented road restrictions, the street with the most people able to communicate and curry favour with councillors get the quiet street they always wanted, moves and compounds the issues on other streets. Kinda a "not my problem mate".
Our street in Glasgow is currently open to traffic in all directions but apart from school drop off time is super quiet, like quieter than a rural village. Great neighbours and general vibe.
About to change though as planning is submitted for turning the area into a one way system with all outbound traffic for entire neighbourhood has to go down our street as will be the single only way out.
The wattsapp groups and email circulars are on fire right now. It's pretty ugly #1stworldproblems for sure.
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A lot of larger bike companies over estimate the cargo market.
Like it's great to see some new bikes, but the experience that a lot of regular bike shops will find when stocking them by choice or by contracted obligation won't be as positive for them as they hope as sales everywhere aside Germany are very slow just now.If they keep things sensible for a year or so and don't lean on dealers too hard then should be fine again, loads more families will take up cargo bikes when they can afford it in the future I hope.
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Tell this to r+m. Most new ones we see from other sources the bolts are loose on at least not torqued up/threadlocked very well. Their system on load and packster is Ok, but not much redundancy in it and have seen them fall off on folk before. You get warning though as steering gets sloppy enough for most people to realise something is wrong.
R+m some of thr bolts are upside down, only way for them to work. Have a pin in them, but easily knocked off and tbh most loose all their safety pins within first year of regular use. Wpuld be a lot safer if they used cotter pins/split pins or safety wire, that way bolt could come totally loose and it would not back out of thr fitting = steering would feel awful but there would be no failure -
Fork seal is blown out already!
Someone needs to start making cargo bike forks again those suntour ones are utter pish.
Fetch 4 I think the load space is similar to load 75 bullit and ua family. It's just the box is very tall and wide so appears more massive. Spec for the price is about right maybe a tad better value than a load 75 tbh. Ua family still the daddy in that market for value.
Shame it comes with envolio hd and not the extreme yet, though if its just family use should be ok. Mostly courier use that kills HD hubs.Will be interesting to see what happens with cargo bikes now some big boys are playing in this market. Though cubes entry is similar and has not sold well at all despite an extremely keen push into dealers with ex demo units priced mentally low.
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Likely a few hundred K for the gates.
On our street only bit of surviving original garden railing that wasn't carted away in the 40's got bent over and cracked all the stone work by a cable fibre fitting contractor. At the time it was all 'we're sorry about that, will get it fixed for you all'
IN time turned into 'no we didn't'
Eventually spotted them a few weeks back literally just putting some filler in the cracked stones and calling it a day. Quote from black smith and stone mason was well over £20k, maybe even £30k to remediate. Homeowner I suspect was strong armed into 'accepting' the bit of filler in the cracked stones as the contractor are proper dodgey. -
Bullitts are approx 67-68cm long at the shortest. Load 75cm is 75cm or just a bit less not really worth the change. Packster 40 and 60 are smaller than Bullitt, Packster 80 is larger.
Its a COMMON thing that folk seem to think Bullitts are really small and would love to know where this comes from, some magazine review from a decade ago maybe? What Bullitt need to do is update the canopy design and seats for kids over 4 years old, if they did that they'd certainly be back in the game.
Main thing with any long john is not the length, as kids grow their legs get very long very quick. Having the seat for them not flat on the floor but up a bit (like newer R+M and UA with their bucket designs) allows legs to go below the level of the seat/floor = more useful for larger kid carrying TBH.
Think the top R+M design has the best in industry larger kid design for a long john, 1 forward facing bench with deep recess for legs, and 1 rear facing seat with storage under both. Very good, but £9k. UA family (XL version?) Also good. BUild quality of UA since 2019.5> is fine.
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Muc off wet and urban are the worst product to hit the cycle industry in maybe 20 years? Search back and you'll see me and others ranting about it for 5 years.
Have tried to talk to muc off on a commercial level (we're a shop and workshop and know a LOT of other mechanics around this small isle) and their only on the record response was 'your customers are using too much of it'.
You'll find LOTS of other bike chain lubes now also have the same issue. IF you see the small blue star on the packaging signifying its made of Bio oil/renewable products. DO NOT USE IT. Seen it on at least ten different brands now, all do the same, turns your drive into one gigantic tacky black solid mass that won't change gear right, coats your frame and only thing that really takes it off is.....
Cyclon Bionet chain cleaner (dutch brand), soak it and a very stiff brush or a wire brush. If its got on your frame and been left for months your only hope is to basically cheese grate it off with a plastic tyre lever and then use the Bionet.
Also found commercial grade paint thinner and Xylene will take it off. But will also ruin your skin, bad for the environment and will likely damage your paint or bike componentsJudging by the smell and consistency I think its literally vegetable oil with a modifier, thats all it is.
ANY environmental benefits of that 'bio oil' is totally wiped out by the fact we are seeing brand new reasonable quality bikes (tiagra 10, 105 11, sram force etc) needing a new chain within 400 miles due to the massively increased wear rate, seen dozens if not more rear mechs ripped off due to jockey wheels totally caked within a month or so of use. And the really strong products and labour required to remove it.
Would really like to know muc off's commercial stance on this product. Are they secretly owned by 'big bike chain, cassette, chainrings, rear mech and mech hangers LLC'?
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It is.
Highlights how much dealer margin is in R+M products though if you can knock that much off for a demo unit with less than 20 clean miles on it.#wishes I was an R+M dealer, maybe I'd own a yacht or a time share in morzine by now!
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They never really needed a damper, every time i've ever seen someone elses bullitt and they've said they have 'speed wobble' or it rides nervously has been because either
1) assembled wrong from new and no one ever fixed it
2) Loose or wear in one of the headsets, wear in the ball joint, bent forks and/or combo of 1).Same for many other long john style bikes with rod steering, usually worn, loose or setup wrong. THOUGH they can have speed wobble due to load and frame flex, but its almost never this, usually the above.
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Possible, anyone who we build their (bought somewhere else) cargo for, we strip the lowers of the fork and ram them full of Circlon fork grease. Its not as fancy as SRAM butter, super fork seal stuff (green), but the basic forks with a chrome stanchion aren't exactly low friction in the first place. Keeps the moisture away from the sliding bits as long as poss and seems to keep them working longer IME.
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Those two varients of whatever falls off Aliexpress aren't too bad. At least they aren't total death traps.
Most of the rest of the fat tyre ebikes the deliveroo guys get now ARE deathtraps. Recent failures noted in person (LOTS of them)....
Disc brake rotors worn down to a knife edge in as little as 400 km (1 week)
Disc brake pistons making a break for it due to wrong size caliper adapters installed so only 20-50% of pad is touching rotor
Fork failure, lots at the crown and internally
Steerer failure above the headset
And then all the usual, bad hubs, bad tyres, bad BB, headsets etc all disintegrating within a few weeks/months of use leaving uber/deliveroo rider stranded with no income and a big bill from any bike shop that would take on the work, but most including us now (had way way too many of these guys have full blown man tantrums when we tell them it'll take 8-10 weeks to get a replacement fork from china for them, when most shops turn them away at the door, so we now also turn them away at the door).
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Drum brakes don't kick like a disc does. If you look at the fork crown to fork leg intersection, its done in just about the cheapest way possible. Suitable for v brakes forces and normal riding, not for a hub motor. been a few failures on brompton forks (they are lugged and built well enough) where folk have put them swytch kits on them.
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We are clearing all our cargos, new, demo and used. As we are moving overseas!
Benno boost, remidemi, ejoy.
Achielle bikes
EBullitt
Omniums (loads).All in Glasgow, only posting new boxed Omniums everything else is collect only or have your own courier (too many issues recently with couriers!).
Message for prices etc, trying to keep this thread clean. Thanks.
Usually the same as shimano xt 4 pot.
Check what rotors you got, hardened = you can have sintered pads.
Would Reccomend ebc red for family use cargos. Don't need hardened rotors and good balance between the others.