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Basically our fearless leader drank too much beer and limoncello at lunch time, and decided to lead us around redoute and through a field of gravel, dust and cow pooooo instead.

Just sayin'

10 hours in the saddle yesterday, magnificent scenery, the squad were epic with 117 km on the clock, 2400 metres of climbing and wall to wall sunshine

Day one:

http://app.strava.com/activities/52330215

Day two

http://app.strava.com/activities/52549985

Miller time.................

Van crew just about to board the ferry, with a shockingly low number of incedents so far.
Time to carb load at burger king.

don't say werthers originals

What do we get in the van then?

Road space is required for motorised vehicles who pay for it. It shouldn't be wasted on people who don't.

Yeah, nice one pete.

Cor Pete's got a bit of a grump on. Fail

Nice one SF thanks for the tip, you're welcome next year if there's anything left of us.

Al, hotel sounds good, Rob and I are happy to go with that, but we're happy to go with a hostel too.

My requirements for sleeping quarters consist of a roughly level surface and thats about it really.

All those rides sound good Al. I'll refrain from passing comment on the cocaine and hookers on a public forum, but I have the impression that 'everything' is expensive in Norway!

All booked, job done. Have to start riding a bit further than the pub then.

Solid work, I like the clingfilm approach myself.

Ed, looking a bit stressed trying to find room on the train at waterloo

Guinness ride on friday too........it's a sign!!!!!

Of what, I've no idea.....

Thanks Allister, will take a look.

As above, if anyone has something cheap and suitable send me a pm
cheers

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Cheers, so the VP fit seems reasonable, guess we'll just have to wait till someone comes along with a power meter know the reality of it all.

Power2max is my next bit of bling for sure, need to save for a while yet though :(

Yeah I've seen the powercal and I've concluded that I'm better off saving toward a powertap or power2max. Power2max looks good to me.

I'm using the CycleOps Magneto [Cycleops] curve now as it was recently updated from the beta version. The only difference is that the Watts at higher speeds look to follow the Cycleops published curve better. (I have the Magneto which is the same as the road curve on the Supermagneto.)

As for the tests, I would say you really need make sure you are rested so you do a good effort, it's all a bit pointless otherwise.
You know you've done a good test when you do you first session at a new FTP and you're a mess by the end. Try matthes, if you're not a gibbering wreck by the end then you're doing it wrong.

That 100W of flywheel power comes in handy some times .

Indeed.

Ok sounds good you coming for a ride on saturday? We can chat then.

Good work Al. I'm gonna sort out the details tomorrow and we can look at flights. Team training run Swansea > London some time soon.

Moooaaaar!!!

Where's the new thread then? I want a list of idiots to add my name to.

There are a few out there and they all work well. Maybe £30 at the most. I remember that I could not make the Garmin brighter in the evening the first time I used it. Diagnosed the reason for this and all fine on day two. Now of course I have forgotten again.

I've used a powermonkey with great effect - helped me out last 24hrs.

Yes. I used a Garmin one for last year's 24hr.
It does exactly what I expected.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/prod86599.html

Thank you chaps. Think I'll just bite the bullet and get the garmin one, seems to get good reviews.

Well it was useful to try the test out.

Basically I had a 45 minute window so I hit the gym. Beasted myself in the weights room (no leg work). Then I came home to find out that Mrs Smallfurry was putting the eldest to bed. So suddenly I had an hours window to do the test. Thats kinda how training works when you have small kids.

I averaged 310 watts in the warm up 5 minute effort. Went out quickly at the start of the 20 minute test period, then fell apart, then recovered, and finished with a 400 watt sprint, which I probably should'nt have managed. Messy as feck.

My heart rate zones are lower than I know they should be. So maybe it was a poor test. Or maybe thats the difference between runnning and cycling.

http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/293764?best=1471793

As Isaid. Doing a 60 minute sufferfest vid, with my FTP set to 240 watts, was about as hard as I'd like. SO it isnt going to be much higher under more ideal conditions.

SF do you have a PM to corroborate the results from TR VP, or you just going by the values fro trainerroad. I'm wondering as I use the same turbo as you and I get the feeling it's massivley overestimating my FTP.

I know it's not important, but it's just one of those things I don't know the answer to, so it irritates me.

If you have problems pacing the 20min test do the 8min one, I think it's good enough for dicking about on the turbo. My problem with the 20m is boredom to be honest.