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An assortment of Brixton Cycles employees and beach bums, relaxing on a sofa perched on the edge of Brixton beach. Just relaxing on a fine summer evening, or guarding the store?

Hmm. Which of the Drinks has the lardiest cyclists? Souths has the burgers, with fat chips leading some into temptation, but then South Easts has that dirty Morley's habit.

Did you create any baking superheroes?

not sure why im finding this so funny

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=113761075311872#!/pages/BADLY-STUFFED-ANIMALS/143612082384957?sk=info

Great. Now my Facebook profile is going to say "Bruce likes badly stuffed animals"

shit. what am i doing on this thread...

Dunno. You don't look fat, but I'm sure you could pick up a complex about it if you stayed.

*not necessarily the best idea if weight loss is your goal

Nor if you want to keep wearing those skinny hipster jeans. Squatter's thighs and ass can leave you with a wardrobe full of trousers that you could button around your waist - if only you could get them over your thighs.

Toning with something like bodypump works a treat.
You don't really loose/gain weight, but you get loads stronger and trimmer. Tis brilliant. That and a bit of cardio and jobs a good un.

I don't believe in diets or calorie counting. Eat well and generally homemade (so you control sugar/salt/fat). Lots of fresh fruit and veg. Cereals, eggs, grained bread, whoelmeal pasta, lentils, couscous, yoghurt, meat 2x a week, a bit of cheese.
Life isn't supposed to be a chore, just stick to the good stuff and cut the crap.

A lot of people are a little delusional about how much they actually eat. Calorie counting, at least at the beginning, forces them to confront the reality. I don't believe in diets either; I believe in diet. That is, your diet is what you eat, not some short term regimen that you hate but endure until you can drop it. So if you're eating crap, you need to change your diet, not go on one.

You see this is the thing that confuses the fuck out of me:

[INDENT]- If I exercise (cycling, climbing, running, push/sit ups, dips) how can I not put on muscle?[/INDENT]

Aerobic exercise doesn't help much to build muscle. It depletes your calorie reserves and it will improve muscle efficiency and tone, but it will usually actually deplete muscle if you are at a calorie deficit, as in the short term it can be easier for your body to consume muscle tissue to reclaim energy than to recover it from fat (which is long term storage). Resistance exercise (weights, resistance machines) builds muscle, but that also requires sufficient nutritional input (and the right ingredients). Aerobic exercise can disrupt muscle building by disrupting the resting/recovery time after strength-building exercise. Also, fat is an essential ingredient in tissue growth, so a low fat diet can make it hard to build strength.

[INDENT]- If I eat less calories than I use, how can I not *visibly *lose weight?[/INDENT]

The two most common causes for this are incorrect calculations and an inaccurate perception of how much you are actually eating (most people filter out snacks from their perception).

So my logic, based on the fact that I have a fair bit of muscle under my podgy belly and love handles, is...

• if I slash my food intake (especially shit food),
  
• don't drink for a bit, and
  
• actually start doing all those exercises almost every day for a decent period, as opposed to sporadically like now...
  
  

...then when I go to the beach I won't have to buy new board shorts and will be able to breath out.

Am I missing something?

Cutting out shit food is good. Slashing... well, I'm against crash diets but you may or not be eating more than you realise, so you do need to do some clear homework on that and some reasonably accurate calorie counting. Exercising every day, yes, very good. It will become easier with time, and may even become fun.

Do you have a Wii? Wii Fit is a very clever game (with some quite fun mini games inside it), because it uses the traditional computer game lures of reward and progression.

Cheers for that. Always good to have more info.

Yesterday I did 1,485, so that's pretty close to what you recommend. I feel like I'm being a bit obsessive, but I'm 14st when I should be 12ish and I've developed a belly. Plus I'm going to Grease in sept, and I'l like to be 12st without a belly.

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Two stone in one month isn't as radical a weight drop as Ed's kamikaze crash diet, but it's still a biiig push. Back when I was getting slim, I managed an average of half a stone per month (over an eight month period) and felt very satisfied with that. It's about as fast a pace as I felt was achievable without hurting myself or leaving me likely to binge when I stopped (and hence yo-yo back up).

Truth.

Actually, Hatbeard repped. That was a good one.

no this is brave

/me steps up to the plate

No, this is Brave:

I still can't believe you can lose that much weight - eat fuck all and cycle everywhere as you do Ed. Not that I don't believe you just can't believe you haven't passed out or seriously bonked.

Yesterday for me I took in 1451 calories and that was with cycling to and from work and over a 10 mile ride in the evening.

I'd like to keep myself around the 1500 mark daily if I can this should be enough for weight loss but also to keep me going for cycling and weight exercises.

How heavy are you and how tall? 1500 is 1000 calories under the recommended daily intake for the average (i.e. not only average height and build but also not very active) adult male. Unless you are quite short, 1500 calories possibly represents a 1000 calorie deficit, even before you consider the cycling (my daily commute burns around 900 calories).

Guys, the most variation that could be caused by hydration and bowel movements (or lack of it) is a kilo or so. If you're measuring regularly, that's the variation you would see if your weight were actually stable. So either you have to accept the figures he's giving there or question either the reliability of his scales or (as seems to have been implied) his honesty.

Whether or not it's possible to lose that much weight in that amount of time without being trapped in the mountains with no food and cutting your arm off to escape, it's a very unhealthy rate of weight loss. If I were you, Ed, I'd be going for a medical check-up right now.

Nobody did.

^At the same time.

In the short term your body will use different energy systems to fuel your movements which is where the zone thing comes from, but over the long term of a month or a year it's still all about less calories consumed than burned.

That's not all there is to it. If your calorie deficit is spread evenly over the timescale, you'll end up in one state, while if you alternate binges and crash diets you can end up with exactly the same raw figures for consumption and expenditure and yet be in quite a different condition.

Scales cannot accurately tell you your body fat percentage, let alone your bone density. You need DEXA scanning or hydrostatic weighing for that. Scales just use electronic sensors and their accuracy is greatly affected by your hydration level.

I was just thinking how cool it would be if you could have "poisonous threads".
Mark a thread as poisonous and everyone who bumped it would get an automatic neg rep.
There could be an "are you sure you want to do this?" warning as they typed in the reply box.
And yes, I'm thinking of the helmet thread.

This wouldn't stop people posting stupid crap, it'd just encourage them to scatter it across the forum. Leave the poison to stew in its own thread.

Very hip postcode.

Wheels can be seen here. Yellow rims.

ok beers, yes. delicious brew ... me? i'm in! hmm_kay!

so any one in the buck early and then norfs or meet up at norfs or no norfs and straight DC or whot?

also and more important ME HAZ NU FRAME! and i am sadly all the other parts way from riding it. well i got the matching seatpost and ceramic BB as a start. so could you guys dive into your parts bin and look for:
wheels

Might have something. Preference for size? And what colour of rims are acceptable? What colour is your frame?

stem

Definitely have a couple of options here - how long? I have an 80mm stem, for sure.

crankset
cog and lockring

Any thoughts on ratio or teeth? I know I have an 18T cog. I don't have a spare crankset but I have several chainrings knocking around in both 130 and 144 sizes.

By the way, guys, when you're exploring Berling, check out this bike shop. Their workshop round the corner was the best bike shop I found in Berlin (a city full of fugly bikes), but that's closed. The remaining shop is full of expensive bike porn. Bike Market City is much more affordable, if you're in need of cycling resupplies.

Not till I wipe the screen down, no.

Weeell.. I may be hungry again by then. havent eaten yet today

That's why you fall off bikes. Hunger pangs.