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get yours for 429e at http://www.pristinefixedgear.com/shop/ten-four-torro-frame/
the welds...oh my. Maybe with a lot of filler and sandpaper and repaint but like that it just looks awful. Worse than a VISP.
Yeah that is a lot of money for not so great craftsmanship.. I'm not one to automatically dismiss all frames with visible welds as anti, but this thing looks like it's being held together with blobs of bubblegum.
I really like the shape of the frame though....

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But to be honest if it was me running the business and reading the kind of negative attitude you're displaying here I'd be so tempted to tell you both to piss off in the nicest possible way. Perhaps Danni has more patience, he's certainly displayed a fair amount on this thread already.
I don't know mister Foffa but him not telling us to piss off might have more to do with common sense than patience.
You seem to get awfully worked up over this. Mister Foffa is free to conjure up wacky frame designs and it's entirely up to him how much he wants to sell them for, but we are free to form ouw own opinions and voice them if we see fit, and to refuse offers no matter how generous they are, without having to answer to the likes of you.
You keep accusing us of having no knowledge of design and engineering (I'm puzzled as to what it is that makes you able to tell by the way) which is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black because according to yourself, you don't know the first thing about those things yourself. I'm curious to know how much time you think went into research and development of the Foffa prototype and what degree of design and engineering skill are required to come up with an image like that. And also, why is it that our supposedly uneducated opinion isn't valid, yet your own equally uneducated opinion is? Your entire demeanor in this topic doesn't hold water.Feel free to respond to this but try to refrain from profanity and childish insults this time around.
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Yeah how on earth is that a generous offer. If I design shit I want a cut of the profit.
By the way I could use somebody to do my laundry once a week for free. So if you have laundry skills jump on this really attractive and generous offer of mine before someone else does. Think of how awesome it would be when I walk around in clothes that you washed!
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