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Anyone here big enough fan of LOOK to have bought their new shoes? If so, what thoughts?
I'm in the market for shoes and slightly (and somewhat irrationally) drawn to the laces ones. With a set of pedals and cleats included, not a bad bargain. Plus they're rather pretty :)
available at PBK:
Laces:
http://www.probikekit.co.uk/sports-footwear/look-city-shoe-and-keo-easy-pedals-black/11257471.html -
@Nikisthirdwheel thanks!
a quick google for Z20 (the specific bottle model) shows it up here too: http://www.fixie-warehouse.com/en/bottle-cages-bottles/848-look-z20-pro-water-bottle.html
and also available here, though i'm hesitant to recommend Cycles et Sports, as I have a small personal beef with them :P but since you're looking: http://www.cyclesetsports.com/en/bottle-holder/9601-look-z20-pro-noir-signature-water-bottle.html?search_query=look+&results=161
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thanks for comments and feedback guys
@Sig_Arlecchino i did find myself slipping down the saddle a bit, so a small tweak needed there. re the bars.. @D_Mars also mentioned (and thanks for the link), and although i thought they were comfortable, i did think it was set up a bit weird - as a bike building newbie with not a lot of knowledge on vintage bars, wasn't sure what was wrong - and by the time it clicked that the pantographing seemed to be pointing at the sky, and the drops a little too angled... well, my shifters were in place, cables routed and bartape on. so that's one for fixing later on ;)
@The_Kindness_of_Trees i also disliked how the decals got lost - it's because i put one of those cheeky frame-mounted pumps/CO2 canisters on, which won't do well on the downtube. not sure whether to leave it or move it - argh for the battle between pragmatism and aesthetics!!
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Hello this thread,
I have a LOOK! Super excited to have joined the club :)
Bought a KG171 frame a couple months back and have been piecing together the parts - and here it is (99% complete - just a few things left to tidy up)..
Short version: Look KG171 with Campagnolo Record group and Hunt wheels. Full build thread here: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/289135/
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Just to close it off, here's the side-on view :)
Also for @The_Kindness_of_Trees, who made the request :)
apologies for:
- Drive crank not being in the "3 o'clock" position
- Chain not in the big ring
- Single bottle cage on downtube (I did have two cages on, but the cages I used managed to get in each other's way - what's the deal with bike builds and things you never thought of as possibly going wrong.. going wrong?)
thanks @inkleined for compliment, everyone who contributed, and anyone who's followed/read :)
- Drive crank not being in the "3 o'clock" position
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Update!
It's all come together now - a few "learning experiences" and a lot of fresh GT-85/grease, and we have a bike :D
This is the bike out on a test ride along Embankment


Some close ups:
Record compact crankset. That's a 70's Super Record FD, because it's just so much more beautiful than newer carbon components. Shifts beautifully. Pedals may offend, but it's because I haven't bought new shoes for the three-pin Look cleats yet :( so it's SPD-MTB until then!

Record at the back too. Yes, that is a 32t sprocket, and yes, I should HTFU. But until I do, this is my form of mechanical doping...

Record shifters up front. Yellow bartape was a bit of a bold move, and I'll have to balance it elsewhere (more on that later), but I think it works well. It also served a second, more important purpose - by being yellow instead of black, it significantly reduced the likelihood of this bike causing S-1.

Old school ITM quill stem and handlebars. The slim feel of the quill stem very pleasantly surprised me when wheeling the bike around (much nicer than the fat A stems I'm used to).

Hunt aero wide (31mm deep, 24mm wide) wheels, married to 25mm Schwalbe One tubeless. Record brakes front and back.

Fizik Aliante saddle. I'm thinking of spray painting those scuff guards yellow to match up to the tape and downtube decal...

The full rundown (some extra details for reference):
Frame + Fork: Look KG171 (53cm)
Wheelset: Hunt Race Aero Wide
Tyres: Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless (25mm)
Bottom Bracket: Chorus (102mm English thread)
Headset: Record
Shifters: Record (2006 2x10 sp)
Brakes: Record Titanium (2006)
Crankset: Record CT (2006, 10sp, 170mm, 110bcd)
Chainrings: Record EPS 50/34
FD: Super Record (70's)
RD: Record (2006, standard cage)
Cassette: IRD 12-32t 10 speed
Chain: KMC X10-SL
Seatpost: Look carbon Ergopost
Saddle: Fizik Aliante (carbon braided)
Pedals: Look Keo Classic (Shimano SPD-MTB interim)
Stem: ITM quill stem 90mm
Bars: ITM Super Italia Pro-2 42cm
Misc: Selcof cork tape, Wiggle's Lifeline cables and brake outers, generic gear cables from Evans, generic downtube cable stops from Ribble,For those who are interested - weighed this up at 8.1kg. If I spent £15 instead of £8 on bars, it would probably dip below 8kg. Happy with that.
The super eagle-eyed and technically savvy amongst you might have raised an eyebrow at the combination of 32t sprocket, 36 link capacity, and standard/short cage derailleur. The short answer is: it works. The longer answer I might elaborate in a separate post, as it's quite interesting and along the way I learned way more about chain lengths than I ever thought was possible...
To finish, in the words of Jean Bobet, "Tomorrow, we ride".
thanks for reading :)
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rings provisionally sold to @karlos pending payment.
everything else still up for grabs. lowered BB to £15.
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Hello,
I've been going through a similar journey (albeit I bought a new frame rather than kept an old one), so thought I'd throw in a a summary of my research.
Wheels
Campagnolo Zonda or Fulcrum Racing 3 are highly regarded and can be had new from around £250 (last I checked Ribble had the best price). Second hand, they've been going for £180-220 in good condition, so they may suit you.
Note: Zondas and FR3 are essentially the same wheel, branded differently so that Campagnolo could sell wheels to Shimano users back when Campag-branded wheels could only be fitted with Campag cassettes. This is no longer the case, but the brand lives onAlternatively, you can find Mavic Ksyriums for sub-£200, typically the Equipes are cheaper, and the standard Ksyriums too. I was hoping to stretch to Ksyrium Elites but they were much dearer.
The Shimano RS11 are budget friendly and get decent reviews. Can't go wrong there, though they're a little on the heavy side (~1,850g). With a budget of £200 you can get to the 1,500g (second hand) to 1,700g (new) range. Have a look at Shimano's Ultegra wheelset for solid wheels that come in at 1,640g.
If you can stretch a little more, then all kinds of options open up. Sub-£300 you can get some nice Hunt wheels (what I went for in the end), or look at handbuilt wheels - that's a whole different rabbit hole, so just be aware and ask around if you're thinking of it!
Groupset
You can't go wrong with 105 - I keep wondering if I should have just bought this group new from the beginning. At £285 for the 11 speed set, it's fantastic value. Ultegra is more like £450, so I reckon you're winning at the 105.
If you go second hand (what I did), you can get fantastic components for a song - second generation stuff goes on here and eBay for a fraction of what they'd cost new, and often a bit of cleaning and a touch of lubricant/grease cleans up any blemishes or mechanical roughness in a jiffy. I've put together a Campagnolo Record 10 speed set (mid 2000s) for about £350. My suggestion if you try this: set your mind on which group you want (second tier, certain vintage kit, or last generation groups have massive discounts) and then be patient :)
Hope that helps.. happy to share more thoughts if you like - just hoping to save you a few (or many) hours of repeatedly reading endless reviews and checking prices!


Dibs the Bontrager Race TLR wheelset pending pics
Also - Campagnolo or Shimano?