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For the record, in the league this season Stoke's home games have been pretty much sell outs. Our average gate is 27,531 with a capacity of 28,383.

But they've improved their football ten fold over the past couple of seasons. I'd love to go to Stoke. It's loudest in the league currently too.

Blackburn however...

The money they lose can instantly be saved on paying the guys who go around on motorbikes looking through pub windows to see if you're using an illegal broadcaster.

Some would argue that Sky have been paying way over the odds for what they get anyway. The foreign broadcasters pick up 380 games to the UK's 186 for a fraction of the prices Sky have to pay for only 3/4 of those 186 games.

The only way Sky can hold all commercial rights to Premier League football to then broadcast around the world would be for them to form a completely new league, of which they are the holders of all commercial rights.

That would involve them convincing every chairman from every club, that their league will be better, and will make them more money. That's a bit like trying to get everyone to leave facebook and go join Google+. It's exactly the same, it's no better, and it's far easier to stay exactly where we are.

The Premier League isn't around to switch on a computer to randomly generate fixtures and design a lion with it's paw on a football. It's a commercial enterprise with the sole task of making as much money as possible by providing the most entertaining football in the world.

the idea that Scudamore would let anyone make more money out of his enterprise than him is ludicrous and naive.

It's also not in the Premier Leagues interests to sell all rights to one broadcaster, only for them to make money out of them by selling to other territories. They make a shit tonne out of that business, and won't let anyone else make that money.

At the end of the day, the Premier League decides who gets to buy what. At the leagues conception, it was a choice between ITV and Sky, the premier league selected Sky, on Alan Sugar's recommendation, they didn't bid more than ITV. The UK deal is split into 4 packs, of which Sky can only buy 3 so they don't create a monopoly. The chances of them ever being allowed to buy worldwide rights are impossible.

But they can't do that. They're a UK based broadcast company. That's why there's Sky Italia, Sky Germany etc etc.

Also, if it was a case of buying all rights for all territories, FOX would certainly have enough capital to buy world wide rights.

The ruling today protects the consumer in allowing them to buy decoders from foreign suppliers, not that a British Broadcaster can buy all worldwide rights.

you could even get Setanta from Ireland and watch a 15:00 game (usually Liverpool or Utd)

You know what will happen though...

Sky would be forced to massively drop their prices, if this was to happen, so their only option is to negotiate europe wide contracts for coverage, and either broadcast it only on their other sky networks, or resell it to other tv companies.

In some ways this almost plays into their hands, as in effect it enables them to broadcast into any country in the EU.

John, Sky don't own the right to premier league football. The Premier League does. They sell the rights to broadcast to the UK and the rest of the world.

The issue with the UK contracts are that there's a 15:00 blackout, so to ensure all the little clubs don't lose out on attendances. The fact that since football has been televised more and more attendances have risen along side this is neither here nor there for them.

Look at the roaring success of the Bundesliga. They don't have a 15:00 blackout, and have great TV coverage. They also have consistently great attendances (better than Blackburn, Stoke, et al) despite this coverage. They also have standing room only, and you can drink beer and smoke in the stadia.

The reasons clubs like any business suffers is because they offer a crap product. who would honestly want to go see Blackburn rovers? There's a bunch of you guys going to see Leyton Orient now, it's a nice stadium, and I'm assuming some reasonably entertaining football, with a sub plot of the little man against the new Olympic stadium. I bet it's great fun.

Yeah, Sky might have to drop their prices for the pub licenses which are eye watering. Consumer pricing wouldn't change though. Contracts have been agreed for the next 3-4 seasons. Unless there's a huge uptake in consumers leaving sky for other satellite providers, I don't see too much change.

If that was my family, I'd have got the house up on NAS storage by now, and my kids can fuck off, get a summer job and buy their own MAC and get an external HDD with the money saved from their student discount.

My parents certainly didn't buy me a computer when I went to university, in fact I built my own computer as that was cheaper than buying a Mac, and I was more than able to get by on that.

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You must in some way be affiliated with someone at DV in some way shape or form. Or perhaps you work at DV.

Feel free to PM me what your connection is, but not a conversation for the public forum.

Digital Village

It's a music store with a large online presence www.dv247.com you can buy anything and everything at competitive prices, they'll even price match anyone in Europe and you get a 4 year warranty on factory faults that you'll never be able to prove.

Next you will tell me you work for DV

I'm not really up for stipulating where I work, but I can assure you it isn't DV. I used to though.

I thought I gave some pretty solid reasoning, but my advice has been overlooked.

I don't know. there was a good replay with seemed to be right behind the flight of the ball. You can see by the way he flaps at it that he suddenly puts his hands out to the right, and it just goes straight through them.

I'd rate Chesney a bit more than being the sort of keeper who doesn't get his body behind the ball.

I thought he was still doing the university circuit?

Playing support to Timmy Mallet and the fucking Chuckle brothers.

in fairness though. Redknapp did say Allen was a bit precious about it all.

I think he was trying to be the story, and both managers thought he was a bit of a tool for doing it.

The way these balls move through the air is nuts. Chesney was behind it all the way until it entered the box and just swerved left.

I can't believe I'm avoiding work sitting on the internet, talking about work...

you're going to do that on a 64GB SSD, and a 1.6Ghz dual core, when for only an extra £150 you could get the slightly larger 128GB SSD or the base spec MBP with firewire?

I'd have a massive issue with the 11" screen. you wouldn't be able to see enough. Also, if i'm lugging around a 002, then adding a MBP to that pile is no such problem.

If you're at the point of saving money the air will only come with OSX Lion. you can not downgrade the OS. That means you have to upgrade to pro tools 9, if you're not on it already. Pro Tools 9 upgrade from LE is around £180 inc VAT (the difference between an air and MBP)

The unibody is more robust for travelling, and having the ability to upgrade RAM HDD etc. Having more than one USB port and an ethernet controller (as most control surfaces connect via ethernet) is also an absolute given.

I'm old school by the point that I like to have an optical drive, so that I can burn a DVD or CD for presentation or backup.

Those are my main reasons.

I'd also get anti-glare if you're out and about location recording.

I sell a lot of Pro Tools systems to a lot of people. If someone wanted to run Pro Tools on a mac book air, I would strongly advise them not to do this, as I wouldn't feel comfortable about how it would perform.

Even a base spec mac book pro's a bit dodgy due to the slow drives they insist on putting in them to hit a price point.

is that what confused you, that people would ask me for a mac book air?

that makes no sense.

what doesn't make sense?

you could still use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISCSI

Exactly THIS!!!!!!!!

If someone phoned me up to buy a macbook air so they could run a Pro Tools session I'd think they were trolling.

Never mind the fact that Avid don't even make anything from the "00" range makes that even better? Are you going to phone them up and ask why they no longer make 002/003 and instead you have to buy an Euphonix controller?

Maybe you can moan at them for making you invest in their hardware, only to then go and make it open to all audio interfaces?

but surely my previous posts would have been leaning toward me not being serious?

I'm intrigued as to what FW devices you need to connect to a mac. I may have missed it in an earlier post.

*prays for 3rd gen ipod with a whopping 20GB of storage.

I've reached a point where I'm not sure if you think I'm being serious or not...

I can edit movies on my ipod touch, and shoot them too!

But EVERYTHING Apple release is for professional consumers, no?