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Clavicula cranks are some of the lightest out there...i picked up a set once at robertos place....unbelievably light and amazing quality.

Just checked his blog...seems he's still working...good to hear.

Bugger, and there was me trying to be 'down with yo yoof'

This one from mtbr.com looks fun.

I thought Matt chester had stopped making frames now?
I'm guessing it's just an older one with a vicious cycles/jones fat fork on?
I always liked Matt chesters approach to fixed off road bikes.

Just bear in mind that many of the big commercial companies like haro & gt tend to make pretty crappy entry level bikes more orientated to trying to look good through gimmicks etc and are actually pretty heavy, way overbuilt, and dont have great geometry.]

The GT's from the past two years have been some of the best entry level bmx's ever...if you check the weights you'll see that they've moved on from overbuilding them these days.
I looked at several otp bmx's last year and the GT's were better on weight and spec than pretty much all of them in the price range.
For a bmx around £200 they will always be heavier than top end bikes, but the GT's are great for the money in my opinion.
My son loves his.
For a start, how many people on here ever complained when they got their first bmx that the weight of the bike was limiting their ability to pull smooth 360 hops, or that the top tube was half an inch too long and was hampering their tail whips?
You got on it and rode it and had fun...and if it looked good too it was a bonus.
Seriously, check the weights and reviews of the GT's over other bikes in the price range and you'll see that for the money they're great bikes.

If he's 12 years old there's no way he needs anything smaller than 20 inch wheels. for a start he's right at the age where he's gonna start to grow really fast too.
If he has a 16 or 18 inch wheeled bike he's gonna look like he stole it from his little brother.
My son has been riding 20 inch since last year on his 9th birthday.
GT make really nice off the peg bmx's...not too heavy, and look really nice. The one we got had proper 3 piece cranks too.

This is the one we got him...GT Fly.

Oh come on....look at the fork clearance...it's gonna clog up if it even smells mud! :)

I do lots of mountainbiking thanks.

I wouldn't call people who don't have mud lucky.

Twas just a question.

Then i find your question baffling...do you not consider clearance to be important?
I would have thought somebody who does lots of mountain biking could have figured out how a bike with clearance as small as a mouses cock would struggle in scottish mud.

My understanding is that larger wheels don't clag up as much, also not all mtbing is done on muddy scottish (or Manx) trails.

Different bikes for different situations.

Have you ever done any mountain biking?
Larger wheels 'clag up' as much as smaller ones because unsurprisingly the mud doesn't know what size wheel it's just stuck to.
The reason you have knobbly tyres is for grip...in mud, wet, on rocks...everywhere.
When the clearance is as tight as that the bike will get clogged up so quickly with mud, grass, stones....whatever, which kind of defeats the purpose of having bigger wheels which are designed to roll over obstacles better.

Of course not all mountain biking is done in mud, which is why i said it wouldn't be any good on scottish trails....some people are lucky enough to have dry trails all year round...but if you have that kind of trail, you have no need for that kind of tread on your tyres...and you also limit yourself to nothing but dry trails.
If they can afford a bike that expensive just to ride their local trails then good for them.
But as i said...that's not my idea of a functional mountain bike.

Again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om_G9JctEHQ

I hate that my past won't just fucking stay there.

The reason this looks so big is due to the 36 inch wheels it has. Im very surprised that you guys didnt know about these beasts.

http://twentynineinches.com/2007/02/14/36-inch-wheels-the-next-big-thing/

http://twentynineinches.com/2008/02/23/36-inch-wheels-update-part-ii/

Except they're not...they're 29".
That bike wouldn't have made it ten yards down the trails in Scotland in winter.

I've always been suspicious of the idea of a full suspension singlespeed , but this seems to have the drivetrain mounted on the swingarm around the BB shell, so it might just work.

Brooklyn machine works did it over a decade ago on the big air full suss bmx....kona did it years later on the single speed full susser too....it's not anything particularly new. Just means you need pro pedal to stop it bobbing.

"In fact it's so bad i'm gonna post in it"
:)

Actually you're right...they do grow on you.

sorry Braker...don't want to distract you from reading your Braille contracts.

rocker's, last design still gets my vote.

Are you two lovers?

which works perfectly as it's the fookin logo!

If those jerseys were on an etch a sketch i'd shake that fucking thing till they all disappeared!

Rocker, if you come over to mine later i'll give you a go on my sons spirograph so you can make some pretty patterns for them.

Sorry Braker...i didn't realise you were blind...i apologize.

Fuck off!
Seriously...i don't want to hurt the guys feelings but they're fucking terrible!
I'm not gonna pussy foot around here with all this "if you tweak it a bit here" "maybe if you do this"....Maybe if he destroyed every trace of them ever existing i can actually close my eyes again at night and not keep seeing the horror that is those jerseys!

Is this some piss take that only certain people are in on or something?

Oh come on!

Where did you find that? that thing is a work of beauty, what wheel size it is? it look somewhat bigger than 29".

They're 29er wheels on a bike for someone about 5' 3" tall.
Personally i think 29ers aren't right for short riders...as is the case there they end up with toe overlap, fuck all clearance and a bike that looks wrong in my opinion. 26" is better for a person of that height.

As for the attention to detail...sure it's beautiful, but it's a mountain bike...that SHOULD get covered in mud and water and be ridden hard off road...i don't see a lot of point in having that kind of finish on a bike designed to be ridden that way.

Just my opinion, but they're too showy for mountain bikes. If i was gonna spend that amount i'd just go for raw titanium personally.
I'm sure they'll love them at the shows though.

Have you been in prison for a few years or something thom? :)