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extra small has dibs, if he doesn't want it it's yours.
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@bluequinn, both?
Sorry, i just realised it's one 23mm and one 25mm
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I just had a look at their website, the parts they "make" look pretty rank. Eccentric company - none of their stuff really appeals to me, although I'm sure they used to make T1 frames or something
Why the highlight on "make" ? Do you think they grow them? :]
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That's a yes. :]
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No, into a bacon slicer. :]
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pics are as the website.
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sorry, right hand.
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I need to make some money quick smart so i've gone through the bits box.
I'll try and sort photos later tonight, but if you're interested you'll likely know what each bit looks like and the condition will be in the description.PM me if you're interested...but no posting, collection from Hackney Wick E3 only. And please don't tell me you want something if you're gonna take days to collect it or mess me about. cheers! :]
5] OnOne forged stem, 75mm x 35deg, black, 25.4. good condition. £1O
6] Bontrager road stem, 12Omm x +/- 5deg i think, black, 31.8. couple of marks. £5
7] Bontrager basic saddle, black, as new. £5
1O] gold nitto straight handlebars, cut to 17", 25.4. good condition. £1O
11] gold nitto chopped drops, 37Omm wide, 26mm. few scratches. £15
12] no name black riser bars, cut to 16", 25.4mm. scruffy condition. £5
13] vintage onza ski bend bar ends, few scratches. £5
14] SRP ultralight gold stubbie bar ends. unused. £5
15] red soyo grips. unused in packet. £5
18] USE alien carbon seatpost, 31.6mm, approx 18Omm rail to minimum. £1O
19] Sram 9.Osl carbon rear mech [2OOO], used condition, £5
2O] Sram 9.O front mech [2OOO], for oversized seat tube, can't remember exact diameter. used condition. £5
21] Sram 7.O rear trigger shifter [2OOO], used condition, £5
22] Exage road brake lever, left hand, silver, £3
23] Brooks tool roll, dark brown, great condition, just missing allen keys. £35
24] Lino 'dildo' bars, black, 25.4mm, great condition, £15
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I'm sure they were gutted at first but they're really not the kind of guys to worry about that kind of thing.
They both just loved what they did and still do, albeit separately now.
They used to test the hell out of their components.
The reason the components became so overbuilt in the first place was because they were breaking standard components and decided to make stuff that allowed them to ride where and how they wanted to at the time.
Places like Plattekill are hard on components. :]Sure, some people love grass roots companies...i was instantly attracted to the sheer overbuilt and unique look of their stuff...i loved their whole philosophy of 'This is what we do...take it or leave it'.
The fact that they were doing something so different to what the bigger companies were doing at the time was great in my eyes.While the majors were worrying about how to save weight, BMW were building 7Olbs bikes with 14" of travel , and motocross forks on the front and having a ball blasting down the mountains. That's what made them different.
I'm not saying that different is always better...just that life needs a bit of contrast.
For anyone that is interested, here's a nice little article on them from a few years ago.
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That's my old Storck in the background. :[
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No. They weren't really thinking about anything like patents back then.
Doc started out making the brakes in his appartment with a drill and saw etc. He used to use a phonebook as a workbench.
They were rough as hell.
They got quite a reputation amongst trials riders, which is what Doc was into at the time. He was a grundig world cup champion.
Then he hooked up with Joe who already had his machine shop, and the rest is history.Couple of years later Shimano and others started making v brakes.
They weren't bothered though, they were just doing their own thing really. They always have.
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@Autti
Just because they don't 'rent' the same VPP design as santa cruz and intense and several others, and don't rely on hydroformed aluminium doesn't mean they use outdated designs and technology.
You might want to look into just how many broken Intense DH frames there have been over the years.
I know people that have broken one a season. I know one person who broke more than that, then got so sick of breaking them that he bought a brooklyn, then won the european champs on it.One of the reasons intense are so popular is because they have a great warranty policy.
This whole discussion has been done to death though and even i'm bored of defending BMW's now.
Ride what you want to ride, believe whichever hype you want to believe.BMW make great bikes, which are great to ride, and last a LONG time.
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hehe....if THAT is the best argument you can come up with Autti i won't waste my time. :]
I didn't realise you were gonna get all 'technical' on me. :]
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Explain to me why in your opinion they're 'shit'.
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Apparently they invented telescopic forks and v-brakes. [citation needed]
EDIT: Grobags has got there before me on the brakes and i think the fork thing i found refers to BerlinMW.
Yeah, i think the fork thing is stretching things a little too far. :]
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??? What innovations have they made? Or what good bikes have they ever made?
Their DH bikes are horrible, their dirt jumpers are stock standard and pretty much the same as all others, BMX bikes i know nothing about so i can't comment, and their "track" bike is nothing special at all.You clearly know nothing about any of them!
They were making 'V' brakes years before shimano.
They were one of the first companies to offer components that were actually capable of handling abuse when everyone else was still trying to save weight.As for their dirt jumpers being stock standard, they were making them before they were even called dirt jumpers! BMW are approaching 2Oyrs old and the Park bike was their first frame.
Their 'track' bike was totally unique too when it was released. How many other fixed frames were using jump bike strength tubing and allowing for bar spins and fat tyres 4 years ago? and how many are now?
Their DH frames may not fit into the lightweight trend that is popular today, but they are one of the smoothest and strongest DH bikes made.
Learn your history before you go shit talking!
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Could have easily been fixed using a bit of WordArt, since they were in Word anyway..
I hope that was a joke?
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anyone wanting to ride on the road (a lot) wouldn't look twice at that bmw, just because they build 'interesting' dh and street bikes does not guarantee that it's an awesome riding road bike.
I would. :]
Lets not forget that regardless of what people think about BMW and the recent hype which surrounds them, Joe learnt to build bikes a long time ago with Yellow Jersey cycles here in London, building road bikes etc...he's not lacking in experience.
I'm not trying to claim for one minute that BMW are master road bike craftsmen, but in my opinion they simply make bikes that ride very well, and last a long time.
In the case of BMW hype followed long after their reputation was earned.I agree that the only people that would splash cash on that frame though would likely be diehard fans of BMW or people who want to own a 'name'. But then it was just a one off. :]
Speaking of BMW history...here's a pic of their first bike from the thick end of 2Oyrs ago...thumbshifters , glow in the dark paint and all. :]
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They're no longer making the Gangsta as it was with the aero tubing on the rear end and forks.
The Launchpad is still made at Powers street and the Taiwanese version of the Gangsta is still going ahead as far as i know, but with different tubing on the rear end and the standard cluster fork. -
Yup that Disc wheel was mine, and Brian Kwans before me - it only adorns the forums finest HHSB's !
Such a great build this, and a bargain to boot.
And Riks after you but before me. :]
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I think he meant I outbid him on the disc wheel on ebay....either way he's wrong. :]
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