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If you've got a wheel to copy it makes things easier and don't stop until you've got each side laced - running off for a cup of tea or a piddle in the middle of things can fuck things up royally ime.

Let an evening of counting and cursing commence....

It's probably worth taking your bike in your lbs to get the headset and BB fitted, headsets can be tricky even for experienced mechanics, ask them if they can measure your seat tube diameter and advise you on cranks / chainline. If your intent on doing it yourself you will need a ruler and a set of verniers for a start http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=142730&Referrer=froogle

Is that not down to the shop who put it together for you? I would have thought the BB is not pre-installed in the frame (might be wrong though).

Nope otp's always come with BB's installed. At most you'll get them out of the box have to put brakes and pedals on them and square up the seat/seatpost, stem/bars.

The rpm BB on my surly was pretty shite, lasted less than a year.

Planet x hubs +1, Most hubs around this price point are very similar.

For £165 ish you could just about get a set of diacompe grande compes on mavic open sports.

God this thread is full of win - sorry full of willy! Amey get a grip and put your bike together.

My imagination works along with this rule - red and green must never be seen

What kind of frames are the orange ones? I still preffer the first one. I think if it lost the logo'd regal and the edge stickers on the wheels it would be perfect. I'm really into the sram red groupo too. So much nicer than dura ace (although the power tap's pretty wild).

I'd rather have a custom 853 frame (even 631) any day of the week vs a otp carbon frame.

It's clearly a pretty light bike, the f+f (forks could be carbon?) being steel probably adds 2lbs max.

^^^ imo that orange bike is an eg of how not to combine a classicly-styled steel frame with modern componants.

It's a modern frame with a modern bladed fork though... The lugs aren't even particularly stylized.[B][/B]

Why do you have to faux vintage up steel frames especially when they are new?

http://odysseybmx.com/fairdale/2010/09/fairdale-bicycles/

fairdale bikes - odyssey BMX spin off

Font looks similar to feather bikes

I'm tyred.

Does anyone else imagine when they lock their bike up, next to another sweet ride they're like "holla bro you look sweet today - have you got new tape or something" " yeh cheers mate, how's tricks anyway?" "aww you know same shit, different day", All while your inside the pub chilling with your mates

Well these bikes are like proper brothers, one of them probs live abroad now but they're on holiday yeh, having a rad time, just chillin.

Well anyway thats what I'm imagining - rad bikes, best buds.

now everyone knows haha!

There's a couple of nos sets on ebay right now. One with a buy it now of around 130 including rings - not bad. The others sitting at £50 with a day to go.

It's not copying it, but taking it further ("Have a look at the R20 and R12.5 radius measures in the drawing."). To change this now to a conventional stem version is a breeze (just a diagonal cut-off at the steam instead of horizontal.

CNC steel or EBM titanium, as I do not actually want to start a business with them

You'd be surprised at how much either of these would cost to make. An hour of cnc machine time costs around £50, even if your parts take minutes to make you've got setup time and cutting to figure in. Then you've got programming time on top @ £50 p/h, you've probs got 1/2 an hour to an hours programming there. And then there's finding someone to take on such a small job.

Before you know it you've got a cheap set of drilled forks with a matching paintjob. The only way you'll manage to do this cheaply is to do it yourself an/or adapt something that already exists.

I would love to make all the ideas, even all the designs I come up with. Alas prototyping costs a fortune.

1st ones a copy of the one whats his names friend made without the facility to use a wedge / expander (you still want to fo with a star fangled nut?), i'd be worried about the 2nd idea taking the crown race above the level of the machined shoulder on your fork. Build the crown race into the second idea and you might be onto a winner.

What manufacturing methods are you going to use, what materials are you going to make it from, how many are you going to make, is there a market for this, are forks standard enough for your solutions?

I'd be excited to see prototypes

Tell your story - For some reason I imagine the brooklyn guys to be proper hesh and smoke way to much weed???? Haha

They are more dangerous, those syncros ones have replaceable steel pins that will last longer and even when they are worn you can replace them. The brooklyn ones are just aluminium.

I don't have a problem with them outsourcing parts from taiwan, their product range is weak though. Their pedals, they looked dangerous in 97 and still look dangerous now. Once those puppies have lost their edge your shins are mince.

Why the highlight on "make" ? Do you think they grow them? :]

Brooklyn Machine Works, I remember when they made all of their own stuff, they clearly don't now. Even their pedals look like they've been farmed out to somewhere now.

I just had a look at their website, the parts they "make" look pretty rank. Eccentric company - none of their stuff really appeals to me, although I'm sure they used to make T1 frames or something

A set of lightweight wheels would compliment the top build - I mean the fonts would pretty much match the forks and cranks.

Anymore info on the top bike its fucking lush right down to the use style integrated seatpost.

I think the logo is a reflection of Lightweights bavarian roots. Also it puts the emphasis on the product rather than the branding.

http://www.lightweight.info/fileadmin/images/logo.jpg

even the wheels look cold!

I built my Colnago for just over £400. Everything was second hand but with practically no wear.

Frame: £211
Mirage Groupset: £76
Wheels Campag Atlanta96 Athena/veloce hubs + Tires: £67
3T Stem: £1
ITM bars: £8
bartape: £10
Chorus seatpost: £17
Saddle: £20
pedals: free
Total: £410

This is really nice.

The plan was to do something similar, I spent a good 3 months scouring about for a small frame to no avail, I've also been impatient and bought most of the stuff on my bike new. I like it and does the job though, next purchase some DA cranks.