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Eton on Saturday. Mi first Try.

Oooo is that Dorney Lake ?

Didnt go epsom masters last night, gonna try dorking on Friday instead, just went up pool for
70 mins .

1200 - fc
2 x 300 - fc @ 80% 30 secs rest
5 x 60 - fc @ 100% 30 secs rest
300 - back
300 - pull fc
120 - breast ( got bored)
120 - kick/mixed
60 - drill

3000m

Legs are dead today !

my tumble turns are still a bit weak (read dangerously wayward... i have been known to surface in the wrong lane)

wrong lane ! Thats gotta be a skill surely !

I have crashed into someone before :)

My turns went to shit though, and I missed the wall at least twice.

Sounds like the norm for me ! :)

I'll give it a go.

The rest parts - is that between each set? i.e. 250m then 20 secs rest, 250m then 20 secs rest, or is it just 20 secs after doing 250m twice?

Although I'm likely to say fuck it, and just take 5 minutes.

yes 20 sec after 1 250m, then another 250m then 20 secs etc.

I found the 250's hard but the sprints easier, closer rest periods ! :)

It was Epsom (edsc). The only problem is the other 2 sessions are at 9-10pm, so all three sessions are 1 hour each. I wanted a couple of 90 mins too.............. I get 2 free sessions, said id go back tomorrow, but I'd quite like to try *other club tomorrow, cant get hold of the secretary though......
I was in lane 5, but he said i will have to move you up, so maybe lane 4 tomorrow if i go. The top two lanes seemed to be dominated by men, so id be happy to get to lane 3 !

I was overtaking my lane in the end, they all started quick on the warm up then slowed for the main sets...... I was surprised how quickly 60 mins went by, plus I felt a little deflated that that was it, I could have carried on for another 15 mins or so......

Masters last night. 60 mins.

Warm up
200 - fc
200 - back
200 - kick
200 - pull

2 x 250 fc at 80% max output ( 20 secs rest)

5 X 50 fc at 90 % or css
(20 secs rest)
5 x 50 fc at 90% " "

2 x 250 fc at 90% ( 30 secs rest) no breathing till 3 pulls on turns ! (ouch)

5 x 50 fc at 100% ( 30 secs rest)

100 swim down

think i may have missed 500, ive forgotten. Felt like my face was on fire at the time !

How many lanes do you have at masters dooks ?

We had 6 !

Hampton open air pool instead.............

That's really useful, thanks! Once I get warmed up and really into my stride, or rather stroke I go from floppy/flipper style action that comes from more like my ankles/calves to more of a longer motion, like almost rolling my hips. That's coming from the hip flexor isn't it? Am all a bit rubbish at this physiology thing!

A lifetime of injuries has taught me much about biomechanics ! :)

Yes my apologies adroit.

I find talking to people at pools takes ages, sometimes I dont have time to talk, but I always Thank people for letting me go in front etc..... Lane etiquette doesnt cost anything.

Dont want to do another boring 4k up and down a indoor pool today..... am thinking about Brockwell Lido......... Wonder what temp it is....... wetsuit ?

Cant believe I posted that ! Happy swimming everyone !

Well just aswell it was a big bunch of golden virginia hanging out the bikini area !

wrong thread.

i really don't like them though. they're a real coven. there's four or five of them and me. they make no effort to involve me in their bitchy middle class conversations. for which i should be thankful i suppose. bleaurgh!

Am lost ! Are you talking about this thread, another forum or you masters Lane Hags ???

Please advise, am getting paranoid now........

Dooks - Sorry for hogging your Thread.... no boss at work today !

wise words knackers. and good links.

think i'm going to sign up for the middlesex masters competition. apparently it's quite a good laugh. why not eh? think i need to pay my ASA fees first though. will find out.

here's last night's cally masters fly set:

warm up: 800 alternating front and back.

main set fly. 15 seconds rest between every 200m. all straight swim with fins.

1x200m fly
2x100m fly
4 x50m fly
8x25m fly

100 easy then repeat main set plus another 100 easy to cool down.

600m breaststoke kick consisting of:
150m with float
150m 2 kicks to one pull
150m on the back (very undignified and a bit gynaecological)

400m freestyle pull (full stroke with paddles and fins)

200m medley sprints, each 25m on 1min.

Total 3,800m in 90 minutes.

fun!*

*or ot would be if i didn't hate the old hags in my lane. i need to either dig very deep and go up another lane (into "top lane" territory) or drop back to the lower middle lane where they're friendly and pleasant.

Go for it, yes I think you need an ASA registration >?

• That main set looks hard !
  

wise words knackers. and good links.

150m on the back (very undignified and a bit gynaecological)
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*Snort ! Ha ! with old hags, you wouldnt complain if in the young ladies lane !

Good rules....what's the haps with a kickboard? Keepp thinking I should try a few lengths with one. Do you still keep our face down/in the water as if you were doing a front crawl? Am thinking my legs are the least best bit of my front crawl technique. I tend to just flap my feet like flippers but really should be putting more power/bending the knee more, right?

A good Kick drill, I find is also on swimsmooth, Its basically one kick to one pull, so you are mainly gliding, BUT; I find this really makes me focus on my legs. I add a lap or two of this into a normal fc set every while. Once Ive finished the drill, I find my kick to be much better in normal fc.

Oh no, my bad, it is by TI (Total Immersion). Here it is; Check out the Kick ! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJpFVvho0o4

Good rules....what's the haps with a kickboard? Keepp thinking I should try a few lengths with one. Do you still keep our face down/in the water as if you were doing a front crawl? Am thinking my legs are the least best bit of my front crawl technique. I tend to just flap my feet like flippers but really should be putting more power/bending the knee more, right?

Kickboard for fc ? You can put your face down like when swimming, and breath to the side or up, or leave your face out of the water. Or use other drills, without a board.

No to bending the knee too much. Feet fluttering is good ! Think - Floppy feet, Floppy ankles.
There is only a small bend in the knee when kicking on fc. It is more of a fluid motion from the hip flexor to the ankles.
Not scissor kick, this causes more drag. Check out Mr Smooth animation...

http://www.swimsmooth.com/

Avoid huge ships.

Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure that won't be a problem in an indoor swimming pool. Or outdoor for that matter !

Have y'all seen the latest swim smooth blog ? I got the email earlier..... good stuff, plus i just subscribed to H2Open, hope I get me goggles !

http://www.feelforthewater.com/2011/05/how-fast-can-you-swim-over-longer.html

ok, this is a golden rule, I will say it once, and that should be enough. Please pay attention;

Breathe OUT into the water.
Breathe IN out of the water. :)

I always find youtube great for analysing any swim stroke, Have a look.

you could use a kickboard (float) to practice your kicks too.

Head up...I have no technique whatsoever.

Can you put your face in the water ?

wot she said. it's the easiest stroke to do slowly "old lady style" (trying to keep your hair dry). but it's the toughest stroke to swim quick in terms of power in vs momentum out. i hate it!

masters for me tonight. looking forward to it.

Probably because its so un-dynamic, thinking about the actual movement of limbs, position of body to the direction of travelling through the water.... dolphin kick is genius though !

I love swimming !

No, Breast stroke is probably the easiest for most people. Although, I hardly swim it at all anymore, and find it the most exhausting and boring stroke now ! I should do more breast stroke !

Are you doing front crawl with your head up, or breathing in the water ? Same with breast stroke ? Head up ? or Breathing out in the water ?

hai

Ha ! Sounds like a lovely evening ! Am Jealous !

Must get down to the Sea soon ! Hoping to start my local Masters club this Sunday...... Yay ! But was thinking maybe, I should spend Masters money on getting to the sea and swimming there through the summer months and only do masters in winter months......... makes sense huh !?