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I appologise.
To ed too.

Jokes like this arent funny to me, they make me want to punch cuntards in the face. Sorry but jokes like this are VERY old

I appologise.

born deaf, yes, and what post? this is a big forum mate.

Just kidding around.

True Nigel; had that come about by the nationalisation of private clinics I'd celebrate it; but it's come about by the underhand privatisation of the NHS, so I don't. Anecdotal evidence is always to be treated with caution but I know quite a few GPs none of whom are happy with what's happening and a couple who have direct experience of tendering being rigged to ensure that new practices are run by private companies.

Corporatists will always keep trying to find new ways to screw the public.

oh that reminds me of another good nhs story. when i first arrived here, i broke my front tooth (long story involving a lot of alcohol). i went to dental casualty (who knew?) and got referred to an nhs dentist who gave me a new crown. for about £40. i was trying to think about how much that would have cost in the us...

A lot more than 40 bucks for sure, or whatever the exchange rate is.

That's scary!

So privatism is a fucking cancer basically?

So overall how's the care?

How much does it add to your tax burden?

Is it worth it?

Would you rather not have it?

I think it should be put to a vote!

Amoral slags! That has a nice ring to it.

Not sure how relevant this is as it is comparing my experience of privatevs public service in England. I broke my leg pretty badly a few years ago and metal got screwed to my leg in thanks to the NHS then taken out a year later courtesy of Bupa. The level of care was almost the same in both (apart from a monumental fuck up on pain control on one instance by the NHS), the people treating me were the same (some working for both the NHS and Bupa), the only big difference between the two services was the waiting around. When being treated by the NHS there was a lot of waiting around and uncertainty when I would be seen by doctors, surgeons etc. Compared to private when if they said they'd be there at 1pm then they would be there bang on 1pm.

If the same doctors were treating you on both plans why would the adherence to scheduling change?

Who the hell is Mr. Handsome?

El Guapo = Mr. Handsom in Spanish

Hey Mr. Handsom, often the argument is that we here in the US is that the "haves" shouldn't have to pay for the "have nots"
What they fail to understand is that they already pay for these unfortunates through their taxes. And that they pay it at a premium through the visits to county ERs.

A link to this thread is posted on the MSNBC Politics board.

http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=1165584

And no, I don't know why I randomly Capitalize words.

I do shit like that all the time, no worries.

I am going to post a link yo this thread on a US political message board where people regularly fight about this totally unarmed with knowledge on the topic.
I am part of a medical family, and understand this from an informed prospective. US doctors that I know are behind this.

USA has the highest government health care expenditure per capita in the world, despite it being a predominately private system.

True, 2.3 trillion in 2007 alone. And if you happen to be injured and find yourself in the Ed, the wait can be a whole day 12 hours is not that uncommon. That is whether you have private insurance or not.

You can get you boobs done on the NHS.

Tell you what, I'll PM some of my friends and get their experiences into this.

Great! Oops! I meant to say Brilliant!!!

Please keep this going I am going to need a lot of entries to educate people.

Are there any doctors in our ranks? Would love to hear from you.

You can get you boobs done on the NHS.

No way!!

As you all may have heard the US is talking about public health care. We are told by the conservative wing that your health care basically sucks much ass. (Long wait to see a physician, very limited care, low quality service, etc.)

Now I am no pushover, and understand that there is a lot of money on the table for politicians that side with the private insurance companies. I also understand that the private insurance companies have an enormous amount of money to lose in this game (between 2 and 3 trillion usd per year).

So I get why they may lie.

I would love it if you in the UK would share your experiences with us so that we may be more well informed. I will share your entries with people here. http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/th...readid=1165584

Thanks.

How much does a pint go for in UK

I am truly surprised at how little play this is getting. How about .05 cents, or pence per hour of use.
I think that's a stellar value.

Link doesn't work?

Click the donate icon in the upper right hand corner of the page.

Half a pound a month is all it takes. Or dollar or euro.

The price of a couple of cigarettes per month is not much to ask for a site you are on all the time.