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@Bianca
If you dont have any response for the dutch team, we can easily find a player maybe 2 or 3 in geneva.

Rail station cornavin is the point you arrive when you are comming by plane and want to be into the city ASAP,
1 avenue blanc is the courts location.

Google map "Gare Cornavin" to "1 avenue Blanc".

video transportation mod:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgWME6qyPvU

thanks, edited now:
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=1R7UqPD_0X2vlW4-cwZwAdBUNCuoB76AtM2rxZLHc76R8DpPuvlIG9-iSUfAX&hl=en

Ok, Housing done for badpolo, check with brandan and Sarah, it's gonna be ok.

Programm is Out!!!
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=1R7UqPD_0X2vlW4-cwZwAdBUNCuoB76AtM2rxZLHc76R8DpPuvlIG9-iSUfAX&hl=en

hops, thanks for the clarification.

Im gonna find some place today, don't worry.
What time did you expect to arrivE?

@tomasito
Wednesday?
So you arrive the 14th?

Im gonna check if i can house you for a night or two

@dt:
from what team are you?
Im gonna try to find place to sleep for everybody on the 15th night, but it's gonna be hard. By the way, we can easily stock all the package and bikes in one flat or spot and then drink all night coffee in front of the lake.

"wheel joint" then shot, if you mean carring the ball. You can but whitout travelling with the ball. Like for the Ball joint, you can make a single move, a control or thing like that, then shoot. But no travelling without pass before a shoot.

Does someone have a free soft for tourney managing?

Ref have megaphone too, and they can blow into wistle into megaphone to get stronger!

@ hops:
Yes, like in basketball.
Is that a bad idea?

Edit:
ho, for wistle, I buy a lot of wonderfull yellow wistle, like in World cup.

Team A score. Team A get back. Team B stay in his camp with ball. Ref wistle. Game start. Like in basketball but with each team in their own camp. after blow, game playing as always.

After 3 people get back in their camp...

*Rik, When you have ball joint (not a simple ball trick, but travel with ball) you need to pass, you can touch the ball billions time after, even on the boards, you need to pass. that's it.

@ hannes:
If the theeths aren't too outside, maybe that's good. But I think that if there's an accident even your not guilty and that you hurt someone, it's gonna be you responsability.

@Brendan:
MAybe that you don't want to block it in the vids, but the fact is, you did it...
I know that there's no screening rules in europe, but i think its gonna become standard. And if it doesn't, offensive screeners need to be ready to get check.

For the forearms, did we kick this out ? opinions please....

I updated the starting rules too:
5 - After a goal is scored:
5.1 - The scoring team returns to their half of the court.
5.2 - The conceding team gets possession of the ball.
5.3 - Play will not resume until the ref blow
5.4 - After the blow, the game begin, no need to wait that player or ball cross the line.*

Cause think about the ancient rule (wait opponent or ball cross the line):
The A team leed 2-0.
B team score: 2-1. one minute left.
A team stay in his camp with the ball. Game over.

Put a chain on it all aroundthe chainring, remove it etc... If the teeth aren't too big it could be OK. We don't want big 52 who can easily make damages. (bad experience with it here). I think it's at least important as plugged handlebar.

For cutouts, if the ball trap in like with bj that's bj, sounds logical to me.

I think that's the offensive screening player who encourage rude play, more than rules. Screening when your team has possession of the ball is for me a bad kind of play, that "anti-jeu", and I think that a player who make this kind of move need to be ready to get check.

For the forearms, maybe you are right, not mention it in the rule can be a good thing. For me an hard shoulder on shoulder check is more dangerous than a push with forearms. All this is about the degrees of playing. Hit a mallet with my mallet is fine, hit it realy high and make it explode in 2 parts isn't, both are like contacts, but one should be banned.

Using forarms for hit someone, make loosing his bike control by moving his handlbar isn't good.

If im a defensive player and im get screened, yes, i think i have the right to push the player who screen me.

for example:
from 9:48 to 10:00 in the final of Amsterdam tournament, Brendan block the polosynthese player for more than 10 seconde. I think that's not a foul for this blocked player to push brendan away with his forearms.

Polomania! 2010 Final BAD vs POLOsynthese on Vimeo

Good idea for the "side-joint".
For the forearms, yeah it's to prevent some shoulders charges. And I think that im gonna put a rules more about the screening when attacking.
For example, A team have the ball. Player 1 drive the ball, player 2 keep the goal and player 3 make screen to a defensive player, like pushing it to the board making him out of the game during the attack of player 1. In this case, I think that the trapped player can use any kind of move to get through the screen, like pushing with his forearm.

Im for stopping the game.
Ref at the euros gonna have wistle and megaphone.

Power play (3v2) is great for the show and it more effective than the "double tap out" penalty.
Kev: when the power playing team score, does the other team get his third?

Rules: These are arranged in severity, starting with tapouts and ending with game ejections on the bottom. I’ll go ahead and describe what these penalties mean first, and then you can read what you have to do to earn them, you naughty little turd.
Penalties:

1. Tapout: hit your mallet on the wall at either midcourt location (a cymbal or something will probably be there). If you miss it, you need to circle back and hit it right, or you will still be out. If a goal is scored, don’t worry about making the lonely roll over to the tap-out wall. It’s cool.
   
2. Ball turnover: For penalties like delay of game, this is just like after a goal is scored. The penalized team will wait until other team either crosses midcourt with a player or the ball.
   
3. One min penalty: This is for when players are intentionally breaking rules (slashing, roughing, obstruction) or accidentally being reckless (most hooking, or high sticking). When the ref sees one of these rules broken, he will whistle and call for the offending player to exit the court. The timekeeper will keep track of when they can reenter the game. After call is made the teams will be playing 3 on 2 for that whole minute unless the innocent team scores during the power play, at which time the rule-breaking team can go back to using 3 players. Play does not necessarily stop at a penalty, players should assume that the ball is active while the ref is informing a player to go to the penalty box. Play only stops if the ref deems it necessary and the ball will be turned over to the innocent team. Play will continue as if a goal had been scored, giving the innocent team half court etc..
   
4. Two min penalty: This is reserved for slashing or roughing calls that draw blood or otherwise serious injuries (up to the refs discretion- if you get little cuts on your leg or hand from random shit and you’re not wearing appropriate gloves or padding, you will be mocked for being a big baby). This will be served just like the one min penalty, but that player will have to be out for 2 mins instead, and consequently the team will play a man down that whole time (unless the other team scores to end the power play).
   
5. Ejection: This is reserved for fighting and people being complete asshats. You are simply ejected out of the game. Your team will play the rest of the game 2 on 3. Good luck with that.
   And now the rules…:
   
   
   

http://www.hardcourtbikepolo.com/?p=2264#more-2264

Agree in all points with kev.
For me, if a guy screen me, i think that i have the right to do everything to pass through, check, t bone, agressive bike on bike etc...

Most awfull screen here:
You get back to your goal after an interception, trying to save a goal comming from a 2 offensors attacking.
When you arrive at your goal, the offensor who didn't have the ball and who is positionning between you and the ball driver go into the goal to block you the access for goalkeeping.
It offers for the opponent an half open goal.

Espi V penalty systeme gonna be the system for the euro i hope. without the screening and scoop shot rule.

the 270 is useless for the game, just for exibition. But the 180 is pretty usefull and that's a good tricks.

e-It make the game safer. Less contacts.

Obstruction rules are hard to enforce, but it make the game better.
Playing in Bench minor what great cause a lot of people respect this rule, or few one get jailed for using it too much. The most easiest way to understand it is for me:

Don't get intentionnaly in the way between a defensor and the ball.

And like in basketball, only non-moving screen should be allowed.

Why this rule can be a great rule for polo:

1-Bikes are big elements on small courts. In other ball sports, most of the time, the player has olny his body to move, so it's way easier to pass through screens. In bike polo, we are less moving, make a U turn is maybe 4 times longer than in hockey or soccer, and it takes much more space.
So screen in polo are more expensive than in other sport, cost a lot to speed and movingabilty (<- i think this word don't exist in your language...).
Others sports enforce obstructing rules, why not us?

b-Make screening harasment when your team has the ball possession is the easiest thing to do. If we considere than in this game there is 3 things to manage:
1)drive bike
2)drive mallet (in all situation, defense, attack, technical moves)
3)have the vista of the game
Driving bike is maybe the simplest thing to do (we all began polo with the ability of driving a bike, people who don't know it, or doing it bad stop polo or never began).
Screening only requiere the 1), you see an opponent, you get on his way. No need to have any kind of the 2 other quality.

c-Screening making the permanent goalkeeping an essential way to win. When your comming back for defense your open goal and the opponent can block you the way to do it, it looks like shit... a lil' bit. So you let a permanent goalie

d- In tournament in europe, 80% of the team (maybe 95%), play with Permanent goalie, wich make the game less open than if you can pass the ball to 2 teamates. If you playing screening, you have one goal, one with the ball, and one who block opponent. It make the game less intersting in my mind.

Im only talking about screening for a team with the ball, for defending I think that things are differents.

I miss cosmic in this i think:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dE5VTFhMbHB0QWZJX1d6ajVhdWVPaFE6MQ

Hep, we can't house people before 16 july, watch out.