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^^ Snob.

Incidentally, I've got Wustoff and Henckels knives which are both excellent in my opinion.

My question is that I'm sure I need some training in how to properly use a whetstone. Anyone got any handy hints?

Just a toe in the water to see if anyone is interested in a Vivienne Westwood suit:

Jacket 50 (39-40 chest), trousers 32 waist. Grey, regular straight cut, traditional fit. £150.

PM me for more details.

^^ Even as a joke this sounds tremendously sad.

Condor riding Rapha-ite, fully lycra-ed up, this morning down the Holland Park Road towards Marble Arch/Oxford Street.

One wonders is it worth pretending to be pro on a commuter morning??

I realise that these are gone, but you wouldn't happen to know the reach on them by any chance?

Cheers!

Hmmm, I've had Rapha and Ice Breaker and I think the latter is much better. More hard wearing and a brilliant variety on the weight (read warmth) offered on the individual peices.

Cons are that it is expensive, however buy cheap, buy twice.

Hi mate, I think I'm interested in this bad boy. Still for sale?

Spend isn't reall an isse so cheers for the Singular tip. Definitely what I'm after. One quarm is the disc brakes as I am trying to keep the weight down but overall looks perfect.

Good effort on your conversion, looks like a nice rat cruiser™! Although I would love a Holdsworth path frame, I'm too stuck on having a modern components. Maybe one for the future... Thanks again for the tip.

So, I've been hankering after a bike for the days when I'm not head to foot in lyrca or commuting. A relaxed ride position (porteur bars and no bar-saddle drop) and 3-5 speed rear hub is essential.

I want to build from scratch but am uncertain of a couple of things: do I go modern or classic build? I would prefer a newer, modern build as I prefer A-Head stems (not the only reason!) etc. but am unsure which newer frames fit the bill. Obviously the classic options are Path frames from Carlton, Holdsworth etc.

Brief would be something similar to the Raleigh Superbe Roadster although I am keen to keep the weight down as I don't want a Pashley substitute.

All advice / mocking most welcome...

Wow, just wow.

I just got these racing pedals from Token, look like a good compromise to me...

http://www.southwatercycles.com/products.php?plid=m20b69s205p25664&rs=gb

Serious dredge but I think this is a nice article on the geometry of handling, if that makes sense.

http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/2011/02/the-geometry-of-bike-handling/

I was talking to the enigma chaps last week.

All their otp stock frames are made outside of the UK. Custom frames can be made in the UK or at the same place as their otp frames (can't remember where this is).

There is a price premium of a couple of hundred quid for the UK frames but they use a better/lighter tubeset.

Lead times are longer for UK frames.

Just fortifiying what DJ said, I also belled up Enigma, the custom frame is built in the UK and they can do pretty much most things (within reason), for example internal cable routing in Ti etc. The chap I spoke to also said they're working on a Ti seatpost, when I pressed him for a date it sounds like the end of the year at best.

Sounded like nice chaps, will definitely be heading to the open day.

I've never seen them quantify the 'some', but think maybe the custom frames are built here. The OTP ones definitely aren't.

Ha, I think my woolly statements bear out that I'm not sure either.

^^ I've heard Enigma build some of the Tianium frames in the UK, is this not the case?

I'd be interested in that open day even though I'm not in the market for a bike.

Set for May 4th. http://www.enigmabikes.com/news.html

I'm thinking of checking it out myself, if I'm going to spunk £1.5K on a frame I'd like to have a proper chat with the frame builders before hand!

Not used these guys: http://www.bikelab.co.uk/

Nice site and based in Richmond and Poole, so for London and South-West only...

does anyone have an email for enigma bikes, their website is a work i progress and when I click through to contact us, I just get a blank page..

Personally I would go with the Enigma, they do full custom fit, as mentioned before, and it's built here in the UK. The decals look double-nice, custom paint jobs available also look good (coloured seat & down tube, polished seat stays and forks etc).

I'm gearing up to getting one myself as they offer, as extras, all the things I'm after on a single-speed frame (EG track ends, bosses for guards, internal routing for brake cables etc). In addition they do a steel track frame so you could even have a model, -ish, for track geometry which you could tweak. They're based in East Sussex and have an open day set for May if you fancy checking out the builders and asking questions. I would definitely budget for minimum £1250, max £2250 per frame.

You can tell I've been looking into this, I really want one!

EDIT: Doh, too slow, saw you emailed them already!

CB: could be off the mark here but have you tried Sabbath? http://www.sabbathbicycles.co.uk/bikes

I seem to remember someone on the board got the Audax frame with track ends...

Nag

I'm after something exactly like this, have been ever since I started looking into getting a track-style bike. Although getting a Nag seems unlikely, I've seen Kalavinka do a Street Tracker with additional options (rear brake cable routing, bossess etc), I was wondering if anyone has a Kalavinka and what they're like as far as Japanese bikes go...

anti gangster:

This bike makes me so angry, which fucking mug would pay €20K for a bike wrapped in leather, yellow leather I might add.

Trek

Amazing, always loved that Trek, also the SRAM looks double smart with the wires tucked away.

Thanks SF and Prancer, definitely erring on the side of the 3Ts as I have Shimano hoods as well, plus the Eastons are nearly twice the price.

got the carbons for the road bike.

Yup, this is what I'm thinking re ErgoNovas. Perfect for the tourer.

I'm in the exact position of the OP, contemplating between a variety of compact bars, all quite similar: FSA Omega, Ritchey Biomax II, 3T ErgoNovas.

I think either the Ritchey or 3T bars would be better longer periods in the saddle, (the bar is for my Condor Agio so touring is the priority). As regards to position I want to maintain the flat long top position on the hoods which I find the most comfortable.

I realise there are lots who like the FSAs here, anyone with experience of the Ritchey or 3T? In addition what's the differnece between the 3T ErgoNova and ErgoSum apart from being slightly smaller?