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The 2100 is one of my favourites, and I think they wear really well. Have you tried one of the smaller ones? The GMA-S2100 line? They look great but because of the angle of the strap coming from the case they really only work on smaller wrists (smaller than mine certainly).

A quartz Tissot PRX is in the £300 ballpark as well.

An Apple Watch is a different thing to a watch, though. Yes it tells the time and you wear it on your wrist, but it's another little computer that needs charging and talks to your phone all the time. You also really need to wear it every day to get the benefits, which usually means not wearing another watch (I've tried double wristing and it's weird).

It's a fitness and sleep tracker primarily, IMO. You can also have it repeat the thousands of notifications you receive on your phone but that can all be turned off. The health stuff is the real point of it. If that's what the gift is, then a watch-watch won't be any good. If the gift is a personal accessory that is a nice thing to wear, that will last for many years and reminds you of the gifter, then a mechanical or quartz watch would be better IMO, but it really depends on how the giftee feels about watches. Mechanical watches can be annoying, they're less accurate than quartz (which is in turn less accurate than an Apple Watch) and need winding or wearing otherwise they stop running.

At £300 you might not get something that will definitely last a lifetime but a Seiko or something like that has a good chance of doing so. The Seiko 5 Sports range are in that £300 ballpark and come in a range of styles (diver, field watch, general sports watch). The SRPE55 is as close to a general purpose GADA (go anywhere, do anything) watch as they make.

They use completely different movements so the subdial positions, pusher angles etc bear no relation to each other.

I much prefer the Mitsukoshi of those two, it just looks more like a Speedmaster to me. One of my favourite moonwatch variants.

Proportionally, the "reduced" Speedmasters are a little off for me… panda dial is always nice though

Updated / ceramic Dark Side with the Spirate movement?

I just want that white dial Moonwatch they teased with Daniel Craig.

Two very nice Seikos.

@anidel thoughts on the bracelet? Do you prefer it on a strap?

Interesting, I’ll have to check out his vid on it if he’s done one. He is an Elektron employee though and it is a direct competitor to the Model:Samples and DT

Cheers. I'm sure he could have brought it in at 1500 if he'd used a generic bracelet and hadn't wanted certain specs like the level of finishing he's gone for, the faceted hands, the domed sapphire, the COSC certification and the water resistance. The custom bracelet is a big, big cost but I think it's the main thing that will elevate it massively.

€3000 including tax, in the Netherlands at least, so yeah, in the ballpark of £3k.

Problem is, if he doesn't sell out the 300 unit preorder the whole thing is a bust!

I'm quite keen to try one at some point, I think it looks great. Easy to use seems to be the aim for sure. It doesn't have a huge amount of storage though.

https://youtu.be/rjW6_BuXN_4

I keep thinking I'd like a Digitakt but then I have an Analog Rytm already which is basically a Digitakt with analogue filters...

Been chopping and changing a bit recently but this has been back on the wrist for the last few days.

I'll keep you in mind. :)

Though I suspect it's going to be driven by the aesthetics of "classic" divers more than anything…

Cheers. I hope so, hard to tell with the market cooling off and the relatively high price for a "microbrand", but I think it's going to be objectively a very nice watch, especially the finishing and the bracelet.

Cheers! If the first watch is a success I think the next model would be a diver so hopefully I’ll get to design a dive bezel insert.

Would definitely like to do a classic Rolex-style date wheel with those numerals, but don’t know if that’ll happen!

Thanks, I meant how it is for quality! I’ll take a peek at some point.

Just walked past a shop that had them in the window. They’re definitely nicer than the old ones.

Rolex case (and hour markers with the dots and blocks swapped), Omega bezel etc. Almost a Tudor snowflake hour hand.

Can see what they're going for and it'll probably do well at the price but it's too derivative for me. The green one is better but I much prefer the Spirit Zulu Time GMT.

At the risk of ending up in the golf club thread, it's one of the reasons why Rolex / Tudor are still an appealing choice for many people, especially for their first expensive watch. Five-year warranties and (in the case of Rolex) ten-year service intervals.

Generally, the higher up you go in the watch "hierarchy" the worse the warranty gets. AP only just went from 2 years to 5 years, same with Girard-Perregaux. Vacheron, Cartier and Breguet are all 2 years. Even Lange are still 2 years, unless you buy directly from one of their own boutiques, in which case it's 3 years.

I'm joking really, I don't know if it's not selling. It might be selling bucketloads. But a lot of people were asking for a black or grey one at launch and it did seem a bit of an oversight.

Lange apparently don't honour their warranty if the watch has been put on a non-Lange strap. Maybe GO are imitating them… wouldn't be the first time, lol, sick burn etc

I assume it's because they think there's a risk of the watch falling off the wrist (and smashing to pieces) if the buckle or spring bars are poor quality.

Guys it's not selling, make a black one, quickly!!

https://www.fratellowatches.com/blancpain-x-swatch-bioceramic-scuba-fifty-fathoms-ocean-of-storms/

Yeah, I bought one for my son to learn on. Did the same with the fretboard, lemon oil and then Monty’s Instrument Food and it totally transformed it. It was drier than the Sahara originally.

The P90s and pickguard really change the look, might look into something like that as I don’t care for the stock HBs (not that they’re bad for a guitar of that price). I haven’t lifted the pickguard yet to see what the wiring’s like…