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well if we're going to let any idiot write a play then we might as well let any other idiot stand on a soapbox and criticise it.
i haven't seen the play so i don't know if this author is actually an idiot or not. but hypothetical idiots can write plays. why is an idiot writing a play more entitled to express his idiocy than an idiot on a soapbox?
Easy for you to say.
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....So in summary, the article was simplistic, engaged only at a very very shallow level with the realities of the situation, and to top it off was smug, self-satisfied and insensitive to the victims.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions mate, very informative. One of the problems with articles like this is that it ticks so many 'au courant' boxes; sustainability, native knowledge against that of the relative newcomers, understanding of our environment etc. Particularly effective when it targets, shall we say, a certain demographic (Don't suppose there's many guardian readers here? I think I know the answer to that one).
And you sell yourself short, it was very well explained! :)
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lpg
when I saw you I was just trying it for size
so I took it apart
changed the stem for a shorter one
this to get the cockpit right
swapped out the cables for original campagnolo ones
rewrapped the bars (correctly this time)
screwed the italian BB in super duper tight
reglued the tubs
fitted a period water bottle cage
then I bought a new black ruck sack
put together an emergency tool kit
including instant repair
and a glued up a gatorskin tub as a spare
I am just about ready to roll
I never did get white jeans
I got some straight legged Italian summer pants
So I can just wear these, with a polo shirt and sunglasses
I am SO ready for the summer ...LOLLFGSS crowns its new Poet Laureate! ;)
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tis article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/09/australia-fires-natural-disaster has also copped a lot of criticism. i personally think it's patronising, factually incorrect and incredibly insensitive. basically the writer is completely fucking wrong, despite having the beginnings of a couple of good points.
I agree it's timing in insensitive and appreciate that you have been affected by this, but how is this article inaccurate? I have read the salient points made in other articles in the last year, namely that bushfire is a natural process that has been suppressed in recent decades. Is this wrong? I do not want to underplay the loss of life or the possible criminal cause of the fire, but are lessons not to be learned?
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Some people's attitudes...
I absolutely fucking hate the fact that I read the above sorry thread. I hate it because it contains the most apalling response from an established member I have seen on this forum.
I hate the fact that I'm so pissed off that I've put such a shitty post in a generally funny thread.
I will hate** myself** when the Old Peculiar has it's revenge in the morning.
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Great posts Tynan, apologies if you've had to repeat yourself for my benefit.
It does seem that a tendency to religion is just another human weakness. Those of faith use it as moral framework to justify many other weaknesses, with frightening conviction. As such it's a feed of shit.
As to the question of the evolution of human intelligence, I think if early man, living in his hostile environment had the savvy of today's average person, the sabre-tooths would have got fat and bored pretty quickly. The world would now be run by the ratses, no bad thing.
Got to go, it's Sunday morning and my catamite has just finished greasing the candles.
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Do you think that mankind is now any more intelligent than it was a thousand years ago?
Pistanator excepted, obviously...Honestly? I don't know. If we are, I'd say marginally. Are you thinking of a particular example that shows either way?
If we appear more intelligent, I'd be inclined to put it down to the accumulative nature of knowledge.
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.....to the real problem of the long term damage religion has done to people's ability to think critically, it has retarded humanity on a global scale, kept us in the infancy of our development.
Ok, so how would a hypothetical secular human history look? Personally I can't see it. It would need the majority of people to be intelligent, open-minded and at least a little fearless. We are fortunate that in this day and age we can answer many of the questions about the world and our place in it, but what about those dark, early days?
I don't think religion is some malign force stalking us, fettering our development. I believe embracing (even the need for) religion is innate to the majority of us and that to write a history of mankind free of religion is to seriously modify what we are.
Must. Stop. Drinking. Big. Botttles. Of. Leffe.
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I think a ride would be a great idea and we could extend the honour to all the cyclists who have been killed and injured. A joyful and peaceful ride, maybe we could all wear white.
Spot on.
My take, apologies if it sounds preachy:
By all means use this tragic event as a catalyst, but don't centre whatever action results on it. If there is to be a tribute, make it to all cyclists killed or injured, from the girl on her fixed-wheel to the middle-aged suit on a brompton.
If a ride-out is the concensus, why not a fun-run. A celebration of cycling, with as many ages and machines represented. By all means people can make personal tribute, like on a 'moon-walk'.
Spoke cards is good, make them a fiver though eh! Start a giving fund and let other groups know.
The proceeds can be used to offer discounted/free cycle training, perhaps to schools, youth groups etc.I'm pretty sure this will make the news, the death of young women often does. Lets throw our net nice and wide and offer a truly positive tribute.
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How do they differ from other Christians ?
I would say they are as representative of Christianity as any other church.
There is a kind of cherry picking going when we attempt to deal with religion, we pick and choose using our own Western liberal culture as our guide, when we find anything in Islam/Christianity (or any religion) that falls four of our own values we say "that is not representative of Islam/Christianity" - even if it is canonical to that religion.
Guilty as charged! All accurate and well put as usual Dr T. I guess I stuggle a little with objectivity on the matter of religion. I'm pretty well read on the monster that is the RC church and the 'governing bodies' of other major faiths, along with the absurdity of pretty much most religious doctrine. I understand that religion is a manifestation of man's ignorance, fear, greed, predjudice,... (insert your own words here).
I guess my reluctance to resolutely decry religion is the fact that most of the people 'of faith' that I have met during my life have been on the whole good, moderate people. When I've caught a whiff of say, homophobia excused by scripture I've challenged it; I have fucked them off if they try to force their dogma on me, thankfully I have rarely had to either.
I suppose amongst many logical flaws I'm guilty of some form of 'argumentum ad hominun' in reverse!
Unfortunately I am so cynical as to think that alot of people are twancunts (I'd love to be proven wrong). I also know that alot of these twancunts are religious, and do bad things 'in the name of God'. People then seem to extrapolate from that and think religion=twancuntishness.
None of my bollocks is aimed at any one or anything posted here. Just thinking out loud I guess. Back to the buses!
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I'm a Vetiver man... Guerlain or Lanvin, love 'em both... French girl once said to me: "Oooh, you are wearing Vetiver! For a French woman this is like a wet dream"... Vetiver FTW! ;]
Givenchy always works, Xeryus Rouge is another good'un
Right...so we're all wearing perfume now are we? How very metro.

I fixed someone's Storck locked outside the chippy last weekend. It was lucky I was able to run a 'magic gear' as I only had freewheel spacers in my manbag. If anyone wants some Sub-Zero calipers or a Lightweight deraillleur pm me.