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Use a small permanent marker - those mini-Sharpies are excellent for the job, the circle is still visible after normal sanding!

are they better than the original larger sized sharpies? i have one of those but if the smaller one is better i think whsmith over the road stock them....

jeeez, do people really need to mark their tubes when puncture fixing? surely, the hole is under your thumb once you found it, and it'll still be there once you reached for the sand paper, then once you've sanded the area, the hole will be magically where the sanded area is......then once you've applied the glue and gone to put the kettle on or whatever you do while you wait for the glue to tack, when you come back, the hole will be UNDER THE BLOB OF TACKY GLUE.... its kind of freaky.

likelihood is if you want to go threadless, you'll need new forks as the steerer won't be long enough for the threadless headset to work, so its best to buy a new 1" threaded headset and get a quill to ahead adapter and go from there.
hope that helps.

yes to this.

Why convert to threadless?

cos threaded sucks baaaallllls

generally speaking, once sealed cartridge bearings develop play, it means whack them out and replace them. even if you can pop the seals, clean and re grease and put back together, it wont make any difference to the play. they are non adjustable, and built to have zero play. once play develops, they are feducked. go to your local bearing stockist with one and show them the code and get new ones, easy pie, though not always cheap. better seals cost more but reduce ingress of water and shite (good for hubs) and should last longer.

however, i'd say its weird that they have knackered so soon. a few hundred k is not much for a bearing. call white ind or the distributer. chances are they specced less sealed (and less drag) bearings if its a track specific hub. if you use it on the road, they'll get ruined quicker. i love the simplicity of cartridges, but love the servicability of cup and cone.

good luck.

What friends?!

you rang?

this should fix it. spacers are fine to use imo. if you wanna take a couple of pics of the bolts/frame catch and the bb set up and that and post them maybe someone will see something you are missing.

did you but a 68mm bb for a frame with 73 by any chance?

spd's take ages and ages to wear down, the pedals i mean. find someone ele with newer cleats and make them ride it to see if new cleats will sort it. make sure the cleats are tight in your shoe. lightly lube the moving parts of the pedal with oil and while you are there regrease the pedals. or just turn your ipod up.

weirdly there was a long phone sex skit on just then before this awful track...

ny the way that radio show is on now, i clearly got the times wrong. and they are playing mc hammer. actually later in career it was changed to just 'hammer'. and so i should i say they are playing hammer right now.....

I am completely open to idea that I have misread this) is that even if this magic pill does all these things you still probably wouldn't trust it either

also, i probably wouldnt trust it either

i think we cleared that up then...

Thanks for the tip ! :P

you're welcome

It's strange I was thinking about something similar only recently, that people weight their opinions depending on the gravity of the allegation - rape is obviously frowned upon (it's has got terrible press, I prefer to call it 'surprise sex') so I suspect -* through a tendency in people to translate the 'level' of the crime to the guilt of the accused* - that when someone is accused of rape many in the jury have already made up their minds before they have heard any evidence.

totally. i know i did. and im glad that i was so aware of it.

Seriously . . . 'Vitamin Mega Doses' (Vt 100) and Detox' (Dx 92).

dam i missed those two. that pushes me up to 9 i think...

Holocaust denial and Judaism, it was an uneasy partnership.

paging That Shits Fucked Up.......

Were you trying to find out whether chips are better for you than Cadbury's Creme Eggs ?

reading fail

"as a vegan"

but if creme eggs still had runny centres like they did when i were a lad, i could be swayed...

without that structure the question will become a hostage to people's opinion.

fair enough. like i said, its not really my argument and i and i didnt really have a definition for it, just some stuff that seemed vaguely related.

Consensus is good, it's certainly good enough for me, 996 scientists thinking the earth is several billion years old and 4 who believe it to be a few thousand years old is enough of a consensus for me to think the earth is very likely several billion years old.

please view from 4:10

YouTube- Catch Me If You Can - Doctor

why didnt i concur?

I think you answer your own question...

I suspect people apply their innate moral compass to questions that have no (direct) moral element....

That is why you get all this conflicting information, we are intellectually dishonest by default, we apply moral thinking to situations that have no moral content.

this time, i concur.

I also see a moral element (not always a bad thing) - talk of 'lazy' people v 'nature' (is that a fair reading ?)

im not quite sure what you are asking here.

If there was a pill that had all the benefits of exercise and no side effects would you still be against it ?

ALL the benifits? like endorphines, the sense of acheivement, the community base and friends you can find through excersise, the amazing sense of flying when you run or ride with no effort and a big smile, the way your motivation levels for other things change alongside the exercise/weightloss shebang? etc etc etc? wow, thats a hell of a pill. but if im honest, from a personal viewpoint, yes, id still rather take the real exercise over the pill. thats because i love oto do these things and feel the sensations in my body. but then, if the pill does it all, maybe i'd just have too much free time? hard question. also, i probably wouldnt trust it either. so yes, in this case, there becomes a moral aspect to it.

good job im not in a position of authority eh.

on a side note, when i was called for jury service i ended up saying to the person in charge, "if this case is rape or abuse of any sort, they are already guilty in my opinion. i cant be impartial on this, just you know..."

it was a rape case and i got let go. dunno if my confession had anything to do with it or not. just a big glaring example of this....

"I suspect people apply their innate moral compass ...."

I am guilty of subscribing to one (maybe a brief fling with a second) of them when I was younger.

ha ha, sucker. just like the rest of us... please tell us which ones. if it was islam or christianity i think the world might implode...

I read the user group recommendation, then the manufacturer's marketing, and then the trial reports, before asking my doctor to switch me to the new version. Even after all that, I'd have been open to hearing his critique of my request if he'd had one

this is good^^^^

a point i may have been failing to make is that i find it annoying that this process should be necessary, especially for a layperson.

call me lazy in this way but i want it to be like this...

"hi there well paid, well studied, non biased proffesional. i have this question, its X. is the answer A. B. or C"?

"well layperson, this is actually very easy, the actual correct answer is B. have a good day now"

the whole thing is a minefield. and this is where my rant began....

dang, dont you ever sleep?

we suffer what is known as an irrational primacy effect

woooo yes we (i) do.

I can't imagine trying to find out the better option out of two dietary choices would be that difficult, using the right tools you should be able to get a decent idea pretty easily and fairly quickly ?

well i was finding it pretty dam annoying. maybe im not so used to the right tools and methods to look.

Again, I would hope to squeeze out of you a better or clearer idea of what you mean by overmedication

this was the bit i didnt want to discuss. for me its like a catch all informal conversational thing not a scientific by numbers thing. in one scenerio it could mean one thig but another scenerio it could mean another. i really dont come at this from a scientific method perspective which mean you and i could go round in circles on this.

I could kill my big brother with a brazil nut

what are you a bond villain?

Also the idea that these deaths are unnecessary might not be as clear cut as that, I could argue (and this is only to make the point) that when taken on the level of the medical facility and not the individual they are entirely necessary

this is totally true. i was thinking more along the individual lines over the larger picture,on a totally subjective perhaps even anecdotal level...

But of course we wouldn't want to do that as medical intervention does vastly more good than harm. .... a good analogy would be a vaccine

yep. this i agree with.

a general consensus is about the best you will get in science.

and therein lies the base of my frustration as a layperson. if the best i can hope for is consensus (which appears to be unlikely) then we as the layfolk public are scuppered trying to find easy access to reliable info. which turns into my....

""fuck it. i cant be fucked woith the amount of shit on the internet"

I think you would find it less frustrating on your Google safari if you knew what you were looking for

actually i did know. it was pretty much this... "i have been led to believe that human beings are designed (lets not get started on this please - i think you know what i mean) for a diet of low fat, low protein, high carbohydrates from non animal sources" now it wasnt about what humans can live or survive on. more about diet for optimum health. diet to thrive on, ya dig? i've read articles championing both sides of the fence. then i read something more conclusive and wonder why the dam hell all the other stuff is there if this new bit is more accurate and better supported? so then i go down the route of investigating ketosis - a state induced by very low carb intake. from all ive read before, ketosis is a dangerous place to be, supporting the high carb low fat/protein side. but whats this? i come accross a site proclaiming the 'facts' about ketosis and how its totally safe (providing you arent diabetic) and in fact a very normal state for humans throughout a large portion of their history before they started relying on veg carbs. just look at the eskimo's yadda yadda. i got too pissed off to carry on. and as a vegan, part of me doesnt want to be given facts that a high animal protein, medium fat and low carb diet is the most natural and vitality giving diet for the human. but as a person who has suffered health problems for a large part of life i do want to know if i could be giving myself a better headstart in that one area. so im confused, the info is confusing, and all of that lead to this here discussion...

Without that definition 'overmedicated' becomes pretty much anything you want it to be, my gran having her medicines doubled is overmedication, my gran having her medicines halved is proof of overmedication, a man having a bad reaction to an anaesthetic in the dentists chair is overmedication, menopausal women being offered remedies is overmedication . . . and so on.

yes you are right.

Are you sure, they actually say not to change your diet or your lifestyle and just take the drugs ?

yep, scarey eh.

"in fact we encourage users not to change their diet or lifestyle in any way"

they "guarantee results". a "risk free trial" ( i can hear you asking, "please can you define risk free. exactly what risks are you guaranteeing this trial to be free from")?

Can you remember the name of the drug, the name of the company selling the drug, the manufacturer or anything like that ?

none of that info is given. its a 30 day free trial of a lisenced drug not available yet. tol free number is all. oh and its in the states. open itunes. click radio. click hiphop/rap and its clubradio's 90's hiphop staion. description says"all the 90's hiphop/rap channel" its only on after about 5 in the pm. 1700 for you army/national rail folk. listen for about 30 mins and you'll hear it. along with some great music*

*subjective

Can you give an example of an 'alternative' that is has a better safety profile, less side effects (and I am assuming comparable efficacy) to a commonly used drug - so I know the kind of thing you are talking about.

duh, homeopathy.

How are you using the word 'natural' in this context, and in what way is something being more 'natural' better ?

like, how much more natural, can water with 1 squillionth part of sunlight in get?

ok, more seriously. the context i was on about was weight loss, as per the commercial.

a more 'natural' and 'alternative' method or two would be to stop eating so much god dam rubbish food. and do some low impact excercise (to minimise injury rates of sedentary people - over sported? sport is killing people?). hows about that as an example? yes you take take a drug to lose weight. or you can be less lazy and put some effort in. ( i cant assume comparable efficacy, but my personal feling is that putting a little effort in and seeing the results of that effort are really really rewarding, and in the food/weight issue it gives you a more workable idea of how your diet and lifestyle actually affects your weight/happiness/sense of welbeing/health etc etc. so in this case, comparable efficacy is les important).

as an last ditch measure in life threatening circumstaces this drug may be a good idea, but i imagine there are a lot of people out there who would jump on this who arent in that state.

Excuse the ridiculous hypothetical example but . . . .

would you say that he has been overmedicated - let's say he was given half a paracetamol ?

no, not at all.

but in the equally ridiculous hypothetical example where someone goes to their GP and says......

"im realy worried about my weight. its too much, but im a little concerned as how to go about losing some, could you refer me to a nutritionalist or give me some guidance to gentle excercise to help kick start the revolution of my life so i can change and become healtier and happier? please doc?"

and the GP says

"nah forget about putting in effort, what you need is this new drug. you dont have to change anything in your lifestyle or eating habits. you just take this drug and you'll lose weight. much easier. and if you dont like swallowing pills then crushit up and put in your ice cream. easy"

i would argue that this could fall into the broad, as yet un-defined spectrum of being overmedicated in two ways. 1)the physical use of the drug. 2)the unquantifiable effect on the thought processes of the big guy from the poor attitude of the GP. the efect of the exposure to the medical proffesion, in this example, the GP being the face of it.

it seems like you want to eliminate the glut of trash talk and unsupported ideas from the world/forum overall. and thats good and not trying to stop that.

other people are only concerned in certain areas. like me trying to find info on diet up there ^^^^ and wanting clear supported answers. and on other subjects, simply being happy to have ideas bandying around and anecdotes and all that informal stuff. a shocking and readily admitted double standard on my part.

its interesting for me to notice that i've had personal experience of at least 7 of the things on your spoof periodic table. good experienes which i felt helped me at the time. this whole thread would have had a different affect on me back then, but now i can laugh it off and go ha, placebo, yea probably was just that. this is just an unrelated sidenote.

death o f a person is caused misrtakenly by a mistake

looooooser.

dam im tired. i cant believe how bad my spelling, sentence construction and grammar is when im tired. sorry to anyone who endureds the pain of reading it....

goodnight.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Did even read the link you supplied ? Or were you drawn in by the 'Doctors are the Third leading Cause of Death' tabloid headline and then failed to check out the sources, look in to the credibility of the author or even read the article itself ?

um, approximately that would be, yes, sort of, yes, yes and pfft, course i read it...

Again, did you read any of this, did you even bother to read the abstract ? Or were you drawn in by the '[I why most published research findings are false'[/I] tabloid headline and then failed to check out the essay itself ?

please see above (minus the pfft bit).

How do you think this essay is relevant to the idea that we are overmedicated ?

it isnt actually, but let me explain... in a sec.

Firstly, the headline is quite funny, a little misleading, no one is inventing diseases....

true. i worked this out. you worked this out, i hope that most people correct that kind of thing in their head.

so yea i kind of posted this lot inb a funny mood after i'd been reading a bunch of different things from different threads and forums and other places. what was striking me at the time and actually what my original rant (which i deleted) was about was my frustration that as a layperson it seems incredibly difficult to know what is correct in certain fields of interest or study. i was following links and came up with those three and posted them more as an illustration of my frustration than anything else. though there was a semblance of relevance in there. we've done comfirmation bias before and i failed miserably in your test. which, strangely is where my post came from. i was trying to disprove my opinions on a dietry choice as being more healthy than another. and what i ended up with was confusinon and frustration at not seeming to get a clear answer. it is possible to check every source and every study to find the methods and etc etc but like i said as a lay person with no experience or real understanding (and yes a short fuse for trawling) dam i was none the wiser. for me the links just kind of summed up my irritation, perhaps in a different way to how they irritated you. why i asked again if we are overmedicated? for me it was less about the actual use of medication (in the first article) simply the link between numbers of (apparently unnecessary) deaths and where they occur - in the medical facility. loads of people die in hospitals and on the table of an O.R every year. and of course you dont know if a person would have died if they hadnt recieved the drug that caused the fatal reaction etc. but for me it was easy to link the overmedicated word into that set of numbers in a very loose sense. the interventiion of the medical community and the deaths caused by it = overmedication or thereabouts.

the one about false research findings, i admit i stopped reading fairly quickly. i dint understand it. and no i didnt post it to be relevant to the overmedicated talk. more to highlight my annoyance at not finding simple answers. and when you find answers there are always conflicts and counter arguments and then can you (i) even believe the answers? no. apparently not. and therein lies my frustration. unless you are only using google to do mm to inch or £ to $ conversions it seems like you have to do endless trawling to find answers. and then you find opposing ones. and you (i) just go, "fuck it. i cant be fucked woith the amount of shit on the internet, why do people who are paid to do research end up with different answers? why cant people just publish true accurate findings?" - rhetorical question.

the last one about inventing diseases; like i sadi, i know they arent inventing, and i agree with what you wrote. the article was poor in my mind. maybe in this one we are being over media'd. as in is the media inventing stories to sell more papers?

anyway, it kind of reminded me of a chris rock sketch about medicval commercials. i've tried to find it but cant so it wont be so funny.. anyway, commercials listing listing syptom after symptom until you realise you have one symptom and need to get that drug.

"i heard one informercial the other day that said; 'do you go to sleep at night, and wake up in the morning'"

i listen to internet radio and some of the commercials on there are crazy, trying to get people to take drugs to lose weight telling people not to change their diet or lifestyle just take the drugs. "it speeds up your metabolism so you lose weight with no effort". personally i'd say tis was overmedicating. i mean, you can lose weight without drugs, and without the possibility of side effects of said drugs. and what about when the free trial runs out? you have to buy the drugs because they hooked you on the losing weight the lazy way.

my saying that im not discussing it was meant as in im not discussing the definition of overmedicated. theough clearly i have a little bit. loosley, my dea of overmedicated is something like this..... when medicines are used or the medical community are involved in a drug/surgical proceedural way (possibly a made up word there), when there is alternatives that are more 'natural' and arguably safer with less sideffects..... my idea of overmedicated would also include something along the lines of...... when the accidental death o f a person is caused misrtakenly by a mistake/adverse reaction to drug etc etc when in the care of the medical community...... examples such as the above, of drugs that make you lose weight by speeding your metabolism (which would, i imagine have knock on effects in the complex systems of the body). instead of perhaps just changing diet and lifestyle to lose weight?? or he example in the article giving numbers of people dying through adverse drug reactions, or while under anaesthetic etc etc.

im not trying to build a foolproof case here. or even a non fool proof case. i would hazard a guess that there are plenty of occasions when drugs and surgery aren't required, but given anyway. but i have no evidence to support what i said. it doesnt mean there isnt any, more that im not so bothered in trying to find it.

I am sure there is a decent argument to be made for the idea that we are overmedicated,

yes i agree. the difference is that you appear to be more concerned about it than i do. you want things to be supported and proven, and im just happy to have idle beliefs on subjects that dont feel of particular consequense to me (despite my ramblings above).

but these links look to have been dug up for their scandalous headlines

you are right here too, but i hope i have explained myself a bit better.

Sold sold sold

the 8.5 shoe size limit is a bit weird! Adidas make shoes right? Of different sizes?

yes but the 8.5 / 9 size bracket is the cutoff between normal nice looking sneaks and stupid looking ones that look like canoes. fact. small shoes look better.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0308-03.htm

No thanks.

i would hope that 8 years on since that was published things have changed, but who knows.

but yea, no thanks.

also, to be honest, £350 sounds like a joke. face of an advertising campaign? how much coverage? how many mill are they gonna net from it? underpaid i'd say. so maybe nothing has changed in the last 8 years.

does sound like it could be a blast though. im just not that into it.

pics added. again super macro with light looks worse than in real life but hey ho...

OP edited. i thought i'd never used rim brakes on it but after looking and seeing brake marks i had to trawl back in my memory. i used it on a bike with rear brake for a few rides. i had the frmae about 6 months and had a brake on for some longer winter rides. probably no more than 200 miles use on the braking surface...

What shoes are you using Whatfriends?

when its dry off road and when on the road i use these

and when its muddy off road i use these so i dont slip onto my teeth.

was going to get another pair of (bigger) inov-8's, maybe the X-talon's, but when i tried them and a pair of walsh pb elites on a treadmill alongside the mizuno's, the mzuno's were just slightly more comfortable with my wider feet and also i thought that the tread would last longer if i did short sections of hard trail or road compared to the walsh and inov-8. i really liked the idea of the walsh. british company, made in boulton and all that. weird styling, but amazing grip and good comfort, just not quite right for me. a hard choice though..

Doesn't it get soggy?

um yea it does absorb a bit of sweat. better than leaves though...

which pj?

I've just realised whilst working from home this afternoon I've chomped my way through a good half-dozen prunes... now worrying if it's 'safe' to go running...... :-(

going running and all of a sudden really needing a shit at the point you are furthest from home. every time...

when i run off road i now take bog roll in my zippy pocket in my shorts juuuust in case. not used it so far...

start real real slow. go out for ten mins then rest a few days and then a little longer next time and repeat. the point is not that you are simulating barefoot so much as trying to eliminate the heel strike from your running style, and 5 fingers help as they have no cushioning. when i started i was right up on my balls of my feet, now im more used to it i land slightly further back and occasionally my heel touches the floor but not before the rest of my foot. ive got so used to it now that i can run in shoes again (trail shoes off road - neutral, definately not corrective and with the thinnest padding i could find), as the fingers dont work so well in the mud round here.

I have read that you should expect to take 8 weeks for the transition from corrective footwear/heel strike running to barefoot/minimal footwear/forefoot landing running. 8 weeks to get back to the same level. thats a long time. so take it slow. lots of small quick pitty patty steps so your heels flick up to your ass then come back round to land just slightly in front of your centre of gravity so you are never putting a striking force through your heel like supportive shoes encourage you to do. .

another benefit of the fingers/minimal footwear is that they help to strengthen your ankles so they actually get back some of their flexibility and support that they lost from wearing shoes all the time. i fond myself wanting to walk in them more and more as my feet and ankles get stronger and stronger. initially i only ran in them and walking was no fun.

i may have said this already but the fingers forced me to change the way i ran and i enjoy running now whereas i never did before. ever. and i always wanted to. i used to get shin pain, quad pain, knee pain, groin pain every time i ran and it would last for days after. now i can go for an hour, not warm up, or warm down, or stretch and i dont hurt. this is what i always wanted from running and i love it now. if i really do a hard run, especially off road with a lot of side stepping and jumping i can feel it the next day, and if i dont run for a month its the same thing. but not at all like with my old heel strike first running style.

you know that beautiful feeling you get when you havent ridden for a long time and your bike feels light and quiet, riding hills like it aint no thing, like you're flying and it makes you smile? well i finally found that with running. its made me so happy.

cassette now sold. other items in the pics also for sale..

yep. pm incoming.