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Yeah first para is not an unreasonable description. I think justified makes it sound cynical though - whereas the sense I get from Jewish friends is that it isn't cynical, they feel genuinely at threat - understandably so given the history.

Not that that excuses all the ways in which the Israeli state does unforgivable stuff, but I don't really feel I'm in much of a position to tell people whose families were killed a couple of generations ago just to get over it - and the issue is that the Oct 7 attacks just reinforce the fear that many Israelis feel they need to use force to protect themselves.

Sadly I think "provoke a reaction" was exactly what those planning the Oct 7 attacks probably wanted, and it's what they're getting

How does that mean it's "the whole premise" of the Israeli state, or that it is a "reason" for their action?

You can critised the action of the Israel government and not be anti-Semitic

I agree - just as I think you can criticise Hamas and not be islamophobic.

I don't know if the "whole premise" of the Israeli govt is to use anti-semitism as a reason for action. I guess to some extent the belief in the need for a militarily equipped Israeli state is due to centuries of anti-semitic persecution, so maybe?

Once again, understanding does not equal approving. Check your prejudice at the door.

I really don't think it does rely on that premise. It's pretty much as simple as the view that you state you think Hamas actions need to be seen in context of the history and situation in Palestine, but you don't seem to want Israel's actions to be seen in context of their history of persecution.

I'm not conflating the two - my exact point is that you are criticising Israel and don't see that as anti-semitic, but are accusing those who criticise Hamas as islamophobic.

In either case there's a distinction between the race and the organisation doing bad things, in both cases they expressly cite religion as part of their motivation and charter, and in both cases you can look at history for causes as to why they've got their (Israel as a reaction to longstanding persecution of Jews, Hamas as a response to the plight of Arabs in Palestine).

You could say "if you don't think the actions of Israel are a result of a valid fear of persecution following centuries of anti-Semitism but instead as some sort of innate colonialism then I'm afraid you're dancing with anti-Semitism"

So to be clear - when you say that this is all Israel's fault and reject any attempt to apply even a little bit of nuance - that's not anti-semitic; but you think others are "assuming the worst of" the Palestinian people (which I don't think anyone has - they may have blamed Hamas though) and that's islamophobic?

On the same logic as you use, you're anti-Semitic. I doubt that's actually true, but then I don't think the other posters are islamophobic either

only thing not included was the front door for 16k

That's an expensive front door

Of course you would, that's your view, but that doesn't mean that the approach the beeb has taken is biased just because it doesn't reflect what you'd say

The fact he is well known (and therefore more people are mourning him) probably is what makes this specific news item noteworthy though, isn't it?

And the tweet is daft - it's not slander to say that someone is controversial. It seems to be true - saying "only controversial in some people's eyes" sort of proves the point, controversy implies different views

Presumably you also think Al Jazeera is biased in it's reporting then?

I think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that it's offensive to say "[nation] mourns death of [someone from there]" - it doesn't mean only they do or could. Was it offensive to say "Britain mourns the queen's death"?

Agree, that was kind of my point...

Al Jazeera's coverage is very similar though - they also say controversial, also say "Palestinians mourn"

Type 2 fun, I felt good once it was over....

I've done it with a mattock, small axe and spade. Was tough - not sure I'd try again...

This is where I am out of my depth - can't remember how to work this out!

I'm not sure trying to equate it to simply lifting a weight works - doesn't it depend on the angle as the higher it goes, the more weight the bar is taking?

Imagine you got it to 90 degrees - the bar would bear the whole weight and the hand would just be stabilising it

I'd go stagg. I have the hario and it's very drippy and annoys me

Sage smart oven surely - can do 6 slices of bread but can also roast a chicken, air fry, dehydrate... Plus has a crumpet setting where it does one side more

I asked about hex a page or two back and was strongly told to avoid!

an expensive vanity project

Isn't this the premise of the show though?

I'd definitely try there (greens+beans) first. I've found the catford Turkish shops ok - Metro Food store probably the best one? Good range of stuff and freshness has always seemed ok when I've been - but don't use them daily so I guess I could have been lucky...

Great veg but also sooo expensive - that's a golf club choice....

Closer (and cheaper) could see if marvellous greens and beans is still open then? Or try the various Turkish shops in catford for veg?

@ltc

A few months ago - opening times were always erratic weren't they? I remember him saying to me "always call before turning up"

I don't think you can assume 1920s means cavity insulation, ours is 1925 and solid wall.