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All good stuff for me to read and think about. Cheers both

Now there's an idea! Would that work with discs?

Is it pointless? What are the pros/cons?

Good to know. I'm thinking of getting a road disk frame built. Steel, obviously, so will spread 5mm if necessary. But i'd rather just have a hub the right size. And given that the rims will last a long long time, would like nice hubs. Maybe more choice will develop over the next year. That said would 130mm disk hubs be able to be made much more svelt than MTB hubs? If not then no reason not to have the frame made with 135 spacing.

That clears that one up for me then. Cheers

Yes. From a cursory search I've only seen disk hubs for 135 spacing. Had been hoping Goldtech might do something.

Watching Her. "Choke me with that dead cat." Lol.

Great scene. Shame about the rest of the film I thought.

Road disc hubs. Options, opinions, experiences?

What about the soundtrack?
Whimsical and plinky plonky. It's okay. Not great.

Aha, 2nd offence. Thanks.

Funny old road indeed. Some fine examples of money's failure to buy taste.

Lovely indeed, but is mfs a stalker?!

^any idea why he got 8 years for HGH +ve?

I really rate cantis, I'v hurtled down Jerningham Road in the pissing rain many times and my cantis always work much better than the sram rival callipers on my road bike. I've also screamed down alpine roads, overloaded, and the cantis performed excellently then as well.

I know that doesn't answer your question but cantis are bloody good.

Agreed. But they have to be set up well. And the set up can be fiddly.

Can't say I've noticed that (Alfine 8sp / SA wide ratio 5 sp)

Would not really recommend internal gear, they're great and reliable, but feel quite disconnected to the rear wheel, find an internal gear road bike to try out first.

Disconnected? (I don't understand/it's not something I've found). Do you mean compared to a fixed wheel?

I'd rate the Genesis over the Surly, which is fine but a bit overrated tbh. You can run a hub gear on the day01. Have no experience of the other bikes on your list

Made the mistake of leaving late and going to Richmond park this morning. Ques of cars. And more cars. Everywhere. Rather like the holloway road but less straight and with more trees. Nice and sunny though.

The Official TEAM LFGSS line up folks as at 9.46 am ...
Keep on adding your name so we all know who to look out for on the pave
and alps of Babylon-don
Give thanks,
Tim

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I thought it was lovely. Judi Dench was, mm, choosing words carefully, a no-nonsense Irish lady. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer but oodles of common sense and she surprises you with her insights. Terribly touching.

Really moving story in that film. Heartbreaking in fact. Babies taken from their mothers by the church/Irish state at birth (mother's denied analgesia during the birth because of their unmarrieded shame).

Unfair to say Philomena wasn't the sharpest knife though... More like green as grass due to being brought up within a convent from the age of 8-18, and only being allowed out once per year. The book will make your blood boil... The frank exploitation of young women and children for the financial gain of the catholic church, the secrecy, lies, cruelty, and personal tragedy, and all because the church can't countenance the idea of sex outside of marriage. Philomena now trying to get the Irish govt to allow access to adoption records, although too late for many mother's whose children were taken 60 plus years ago.

Would be good to toast Josh.
Raise a glass for me (babysitting).

Yes!

Colourtech

I've had 2 frames done there. Nothing complicated, but saw some beautiful examples while there. He did Witcomb's painting, and I think he does Ron Cooper's and Roberts'.

Finally bit the bullet and saw Wolf of Wall Street. 6/10.

Anything good out at the minute?

6/10??? I thought it was tremendous. I also enjoyed Captain Jack (fucking tense), the new Cohen brothers' film, bits of the Armstrong Lie, and American Hustle. I enjoyed WoWS the most

Give me a shout if you could sell me one...