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i'm pretty curious to se the 08 range, i tell you that. some new colour choices would be welcome, so di on't end up as a mashton/smith copyist.

good advice, Mnsr. Smeeth, I will get in there next week. However, I'm quite preapred for an 8 week wait, so at least i won't be too fucked off when it takes ten weeks!

yes and no, Hippy, yes and no.

with this voucher, a stock Pista will cost me 570 - exactly what the Touche was going to cost with the setapost etc.

So, i win.

the fact that i'll probably end up pimping it until it floats like Mister Smith's is neither here, nor is it there.

provenrad I can see a fortuitous situation here!

check out this : http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=2736

Guy 'selling' a £650 condor credit note for 20% off - get IN there my son!

If you can wait...

:-)

Mashton - THIS voucher!

contacted the guy, he called Condormen, they transferred my name to the voucher.

just got to wait for the 2008 models now!

Ok, well, i bought that 20 percent-off voucher from that Guy, so i'm good to go, baby.

I have Condor Credit, and I'm prepared to use it.

anyone have any idea when Condor will launch their 2008 range?

(aprt from, obviously, the day after i buy my full price 07 pista)

Yeah, i saw the Wilier before, but discounted it on grounds of Price. however, now the price is creeping up and up... who knows.

Mashton, i really liked your Condor -was that the standard build? you toild me it cost you just under 700. it seemed much lighter than poor old Mouse's heavy, cumbersome 06 model...

wow, surreal physics based humour, at 10 am.

Great. And foolishly i had hoped that starting this thread would help me decide....

yeah, you're right. i'll give it a go. They're really good in that shop, by the way, good experience there today. recommended. shame it's out in the arse end of nowhere.

You can buy the Pearson frame+fork+headset -it's 290, he said. seems like a good price, it's a fucking light frame, very well made.

hippy [quote]RPM buy the frame and I'll build the rest up for you in a fucking day.
not for free, mind

Can you buy the frame alone? Hangon are you talking about the Condor or the Pearson?

When nimhbus mentions the addition of carbon posts, etc. Why not buy these parts online? You get more choice, bit cheaper and have a spare.
Things like tyres too - just kill the stock ones before buying new ones.
Also, how flexible are Pearson on price? All places will have some flex built into marked prices. I never buy shit like that without haggling. Even if they wont bend on price they would at least throw stuff in free.[/quote]

Yeah, you're right there. i did wonder what the point was in paying them for the seatpost etc. i guess partly you just want to get the finished article, rather than have a list of bits still to do, but it makes sense.

I'll try a bit of a haggle, but it's harder when they are the only supplier of that bike! can hardly claim i'll go somewhere else, after all!

well, i PM'd him, but it was a week ago, so frankly i'm not hopeful. thanks for the tip though

if i araldite them together, will it make a Fuji track Pro?

yeah, those pesky condormen.

what did gary pay for his? it;s a nice build, but it's non-standard, right?

the pista frame is 449... that build is not going to come in for less than 700, not with your fees.

RPM buy the frame and I'll build the rest up for you in a fucking day.

not for free, mind

what frame? Pearson frame and fork and headseat is 290.

yeah. it's a knotty one.

I love the condor pista, but i know too many people who have them already, i'd feel like a copycat, and it's a bit more than i should be spending, and they'll take forever to build the fucker. But i would like one. hmm.

condor is 699 for the basic spec, isn't it?

again, a jump, and as has been said above, it'll be 5 weeks to build.

Todd Flyer is £399 at Cycle Surgery now.
http://www.cyclesurgery.com/ProductDetails/mcs/productID/1025621/groupID/7/categoryID/260/v/5f143c79-d0cf-47bc-bebf-c0775cc922ec

yeah. you see, it is a fuck sight cheaper, is it not? and for a similarly spec'd bike, from what i can tell.

well, i don't want to build right now, i want to buy off the peg and customise later on, not for a while.

i have narrowed it down to those 2 really, as fitting the bduget and my taste.

jonaent (Jon) Get a Condor

this is true, fact is for another 99 quid or so, i could get a Condor.

cheers guys.

well, yeah, i mean i thought the brakes on the Pearson seemed a bit cheap, given the price, and as i say, it's extra for a carbon seatpost etc etc. The flyer is 499 list price, but you can get deals on the net of course, which you can't with the pearson.

Yeah, the Flyer chainline issue is a concern, certainly.

They don't customise the Pearson free, Dogsballs, but because it's a bike shop who are just getting frames made, you can have anything you want on it, but they do charge - a few tweaks and you're well over 600.

There's a REVIEW of the Pearson here -rates it, but does say the wheels are a bit shit.

well, yeah, but that's how they come. i plan to customise a bit as time goes on.

Pearson Touche or Genesis Flyer.

Been to see both these bikes, and they're both nice. The Pearson i like cos it's a little more different, and because it's light, but with the carbon seatpost and decent tyres, it comes out at 590-600 quid. quite a lot. it's been very well reviewed, though. The frame is beautifully made, it really is.

Is the spec really up to that price, i'm wondering? opinions welcome.

The Flyer -i think i prefer the ride of the steel frame, and it feels good to me, it;s a nice bike. But, you know, it's yet another Flyer. However, i can get it for 432 quid delivered, so quite a price difference.

So, Hippy et al, do you think the Pearson is worth the extra 150 or so quid?

yeah, fair enough!

so, why don't you all come and do a lap then!