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Ah, fab, looks like another Garmin update has bricked my 1040 again.

Nope, the cunt's woken up after a hard restart. Garmin software engineers are shite.

Crankless? That bike has 4 sets of cranks now. One of them is even installed!

So, should I ride the original route or YALs? I have no skin in the game either way, just figured it'd be something we could do over a long weekend and I might then try and slink off for that Calais to Dieppe ride too. Maybe leave the camp shit at home and hotel it.

I know of only one person fully sick enough to complete this

waves

Only problem is he fucking hates riding in London now and would probably throw his bike in the river and jump on crossrail.

If you have shifters with more than one port...

You connect shifters to each other in the handlebars

Then you connect one of the shifters to the 3-port junction

Then you connect the new TT shifter to the newly spare port in the 3-port junction

snow, sleet, rain, a freezing gale, climbing over fallen trees, riding through slush and ice.
It was actually pretty great

FYI: Stockholm Syndrome

You don't need the phone screen on to record a walk. I use RWGPS and it can sit silently in a pocket. It'll sync automatically to Strava or Garmin or whatever too. When you take pictures with the phone you can geotag them too

Seems a bit pointless buying another bit of electronics if what you have will work. On the other hand, having some redundancy if you're roughing it and/or need more battery life, waterproof kit, etc, then an etrex will do what you want.

With Garmins you literally turn them on and it's recording a track. Plug it into a computer and dump the tracks off it.

If the legal folk here conclude the same as I did, that we'd be in the zone of having to implement age verification, scanning of file attachments, scanning of DMs, new reporting tools

I'm not sure I want to be part of a place IRL or on the internet that has been bent over by the government this hard. It's a bike forum. On one hand I want it to continue but on the other hand I'd rather torch everything, flip the censors the bird and move my communication ever further underground.

Can you imagine how long it will take me to pick a crankset when I have to encode specifications of it in microfilm to fly on carrier pigeons to some groupset oracle living in a cave in France...

Thanks to @spinnnout for the well dodgy Richmond Park definitely not a drug deal officer I'm just tightening up this crank meetup

Not actually put any force through it but it shifts like it's meant to which is a good start.

I'd take any of the scifi, tech, privacy stuff that others don't want. Also in W5 so probably able to pick up when I'm not riding elsewhere over the next few days.

How hard is it to move to the collective now, anyway?

While there's a motivation to save this place, it would be a good time to shift the donation platform perhaps.

Pirate Bay tried to buy that didn't they?

I mean, I could just hammer the fucker with a screwdriver but I'm not going to :)

Yep, same. I've DMd ya

I've already ordered one, but it's not going to arrive until Tuesday. I was hoping one of the London shops might have one in their workshops but Sunday's not a great day to be trying to find a functional workshop with random crank tool.

Balfes don't answer, Sigma Sport just on some recorded message loop, Condor closed.

Yeah, makes sense... now. But when you don't know you don't know.

Now I need to either find the tool for the 1x or try installing the other 2x crankset so I can ride something tomorrow.

Actually would Condor or Sigma sell the chainring lockring tool, I wonder?

Yeah, I'm just confused because almost everything else I have uses 68mm stuff. Anyway the BB is installed (correctly) now but I still need a lockring tool for the DM crank spider. I may just try the other (2x) cranks out but maybe I'll just be lazy for a few days instead.

Instructions don't help if you don't know what you're even dealing with to begin with. They don't tell you which cranks will work on bike x.

They don't help when you don't have the right tools.

They don't help when you want to know WHY? and not just "do this".

Spaced out man

Ah, so the BB isn't 73mm? I thought because it was "MTB" BB as opposed to road it was already 73mm wide.

What should the BB measure externally when installed? 93mm?

Because they're designed to have one

This is what I don't get - why build a thing that needs a spacer? I assumed the spacers were for silly crank variations, not Shimano cranks in Shimano BBs (but then I thought well hangon, now we have Boost and a bunch of other new shit even within the Shimano BB world, so I've no fucking idea.)

Anyone in West London have Shimano DM chainring lockring tool?

Park LRT-4

It's factory grease that I just boshed the crank through to see if it fit.

Why would a spacer be required on a stock 73mm install, is it coz these are newer cranks in an older BB? Looks to be about 50mm on each side of BB but cranks aren't installed coz I don't have tool to tighten DM chainring.

I've got older style M6000 2x cranks too. I could try them. Do they also need a spacer?

Why? It's not as close to the chainstay as the photo appears to show. I never found a lockring tool so I'm not going to bother putting the chain on until I know it will fly.