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Cheers!

Double room for rent in converted warehouse E3

We have a double room going at Grobag Towers again. Available short term for three months only from June 9th to September 9th....perfect for a summer visit. :]
Whoever moves in will be sharing with myself and 2 others.

It’s a converted warehouse in Hackney Wick (E3), in the Old Peanut Factory.

The room is approx 14' 6"x 11' 6".
There is a wide hallway with tons of space for bikes. The place has a big open plan kitchen and living area, washing machine, tumble dryer etc.

It’s a few minutes’ ride to Victoria Park, 15 minute ride to Old Street. We’re not far from Hackney Wick overground station and Bow Road, Mile End and Whitechapel tubes (and East London Line) and the number 8 (24hr) bus stop are walkable.

PM me for figures and further information...or email me on archiesgrobags@hotmail.co.uk
Cheers!
Scott

MAP

Apologies for the dodgy phone pics.

hopefully it will find its way back to the rightful owner.

'This'

Room now gone.

Double room for rent in converted warehouse E3

We have a double room going at Grobag Towers again. Available from April 9th.
Whoever moves in will be sharing with myself and 2 others.

It’s a converted warehouse in Hackney Wick (E3), in the Old Peanut Factory.

The room is unfurnished and approx 14' 6"x 11' 6".
There is a wide hallway with tons of space for bikes. The place has a big open plan kitchen and living area, washing machine, tumble dryer etc.

It’s a few minutes’ ride to Victoria Park, 15 minute ride to Old Street. We’re not far from Hackney Wick overground station and Bow Road, Mile End and Whitechapel tubes (and East London Line) and the number 8 (24hr) bus stop are walkable.

We're ideally looking for a couple as it's a couple who currently rent it so it would be nice to keep numbers the same, but as it's short notice we will also consider solo Renters.
It's a months rent plus a months deposit to move in, on a rolling contract (so just need a month’s notice if you want to move out).

PM me for figures and further information...or email me on archiesgrobags@hotmail.co.uk
Cheers!
Scott

MAP

We have a double room going at Grobag Towers. Available from early March.
Whoever moves in will be sharing with myself and 3 others.

It’s a converted warehouse in Hackney Wick (E3), in the Old Peanut Factory.

The room is unfurnished and approx 15' x 12', with two large 1O" deep arched alcoves spanning most of one end wall and adding further space.
There is a wide hallway with tons of space for bikes. The place has a big open plan kitchen and living area, washing machine, tumble dryer etc.

It’s a few minutes’ ride to Victoria Park, 15 minute ride to Old Street. We’re not far from Hackney Wick overground station and Bow Road, Mile End and Whitechapel tubes (and East London Line) and the number 8 (24hr) bus stop are walkable.

Rent is £500pcm, with a £500 deposit, on a rolling contract (so just need a month’s notice if you want to move out).

PM me for further information...or email me on archiesgrobags@hotmail.co.uk
Cheers!
Scott

MAP

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I don't get it Scott
you are the first person to holler 'open forum' when it comes to discussions about forum caps and Torpha products but now you're bitching when you're being called out on manipulating your own thread

Have i ever said that David couldn't close the cap thread or the Torm thread?
If a thread is open then discussion is welcomed.
Likewise, if a thread is on the main forum then it's there for discussion purposes.

The Grobags thread is a classifieds thread, in the classified section...I didn't start it to enter into pages of discussion, I started it to sell bags. I have the right to close the thread, which i did...not to try and pervert the course of justice as is being implied on here...not to prevent people slagging off what i do...I closed it because I no longer make Archie's Grobags...they are no longer for sale.
The fact that other people have 'discussed' on there is not anything i have control over, but it is still no different to people discussing the items for sale on ANY other classifieds thread...all of which the starters are entitled to close...regardless of what 'discussions' have taken place on there...RIGHT?
Why my thread is suddenly being treated differently i don't know.
If you actually bother to look through the thread you'll find pretty much nothing but 'for sale' lists, new products available and information about who's bags are ready...discussion made up probably ten percent at most...again, no different to anybody elses classifieds threads.
I have chosen to make a few final announcements about future plans and to leave contact details...that's all. Hence why i then returned it to closed.

As Davids pointless 'Archie's Grobags discussion thread' showed yesterday, people aren't as interested in discussing the bags anymore as he would like everybody to believe, and i stand by my comments that what i was doing wasn't upsetting anybody else or causing any problems to anybody but David.

I'm through with the subject now.
The new 'merged' thread is open now so you can all feel free to have all those lengthy discussions that you've all apparently been dying to have over the last week or so that the thread has been closed.

Knock yourselves out!

Hippy. merge the new and old threads.
i know you want to

Go ahead and do it...I've opened the official Grobags thread so people can post whatever they like in it and call me as many names in the tags as they see fit.

I'll start a new thread for any further announcements.

Rage all you need to

See you're doing the same thing again David. If i disagree i'm 'Raging'...if i voice an opinion i'm 'going apeshit'.

You need to stop trying to cast me in a bad light...people can make their own minds up about me without any help...If people really see me as a cunt, i'd prefer that opinion to be formed without help from you or anyone else thanks.

I'm not going to get into the personal side again or why you felt it necessary to have those little digs in your post earlier.

Anyway...regarding me trying to control peoples opinions...here is what i opened the thread for and then closed inbetween each post.
Was it really out of order for me to close the thread inbetween my posts?

"Cheers Hippy. :]

PM me if you want to know more about the new bags folks.

Cheers!"

"The first 4 of the new messenger bags are being made for their future owners this week.
Once i can get the photos of my finished bag sorted I'll be ready to launch the website with all the information about the new company.

I'm also trying to work on the new small pouch design as and when i can. So if anybody is interested in hip pouches right now, drop me a PM.

More to follow. ;]
Scott"

"From now on can anybody interested in any of my future products email me on archiesgrobags@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks!
Scott"

None of them were me getting into any discussions, so therefore i wasn't controlling anybodies opinions.

You keep going on about how i have less rights to close the thread because it contains discussion and sales, but i started it in classifieds...to sell the bags...the discussion is with people interested in buying the bags.
If off topic shit is posted then there is nothing i can do about that...but it is for all intents and purposes no different to any other classified thread where people discuss the item or items for sale.
So me closing it is not me controlling peoples opinions or trying to prevent discussion in any other way than anybody closing any other classifieds.
Just because the Grobags thread is longer it doesn't change the fact that it's a classifieds thread.

It's not as if i'm trying to control peoples opinions here or being abusive to somebody then closing the thread so they can't have their say in return.
All i'm doing is opening the thread to give interested parties information about future plans and then telling them how to contact me.
I then close the thread because the Archie's Grobags are no longer for sale...no different to closing any other classified thread once the item is sold.
Doing it this way means i don't need to start another thread for something which can be just as easily dealt with in an existing thread.

I don't re-open it to dick around and start trouble.

it's the basic principle of not undermining his authority. if he makes a call you don't approve of then either accept it or leave, or bring it up via PM if you feel it's important.. whatever you do say HAVE SOME TACT, mate. you catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar. using ill tempered language towards DK is just not right, especially not in such a public thread for us all to see.

he has and always should have the final say in the affairs on the forum.

But it's acceptable for him to have digs at me in his post for all to see and discuss my thread and what i do openly before bothering to PM me and explain the problem?
I wouldn't have even had a PM had Rik not mentioned it.

David may be the boss, but it doesn't mean he is always right...so it's not about just 'accept it or leave'...I'm entitled to give my opinion too.

Hate to says it but you can't exactly control how people behave in the forum.

Sadly some people can...and are doing, very often lately.
As i said...nobody seemed to be complaining about me closing my thread before today...it wasn't an issue.
Anybody who wanted info was happily PM'ing me...this saved pages of useless posts which were of no interest to anybody but myself and the person who sent the message.

There is plenty of behaviour on this forum that should warrant far more attention than whether the Archie's Grobags thread is open or not...but as big brother is watching me lately it immediately became an issue.

There was no reason whatsoever for David to mention either me or Archie's Grobags in his post...he could have easily explained his issue and what he intended to do without any examples...just like there was no need to have the little digs at me in the post either.

As David's entire post earlier today was directed at me I'm going to assume that this whole closing of threads issue wasn't really an issue at all until David took offence to me opening my Grobags thread to make announcements about my future plans, but then closing it to try and prevent too much unnecessary speculation or thread derailing until my new company is ready to launch?

I haven't had a single person complain to me about it...they just PM me to find out more.
I'm assuming David hasn't been inundated with angry PM's asking why i have opened and closed my thread a few times lately?

The fact i haven't seen anything mentioned about it on here prior to Davids post earlier today also points to the fact that nobody else really considered it an issue either.

Once I'm ready to launch my new company i will happily leave the grobags thread unlocked and people can shit talk to their hearts content, but i saw no point in starting a whole new thread about the forthcoming project when at the moment all i was doing was informing people who were interested about a few things and asking them to PM me to avoid pages of speculation when i wasn't in a position to discuss things openly anyway.
There are enough pointless threads on here already, so David starting a whole new thread about Archie's Grobags to encourage people to 'discuss' in it was a complete waste of his precious time as the number of posts in it clearly show.

If i wasn't causing a mass disruption to the forum by controlling my thread the way i was then why on earth did it need to be made into an issue and cause even more work for moderators than allowing me to control it as i was for a few weeks while i sort stuff out?
The grobags thread had become pretty dormant anyway and the only real 'discussion' going on was to do with what i was asking people to deal with via PM anyway.

I'm sure if David was to be honest for a minute he'd have to admit that my thread wasn't causing him any work by me doing what i was doing, and very probably wasn't inspiring a mad rush for people to start opening and closing their classifieds threads all over the place.
Discussing WHY i wanted to control the thread just lately via a pm to me instead of posting his rant and making assumptions about me and casting me as the villain...and maybe allowing me a couple of weeks to sort things out would have been less stress than what has now started today surely?

Glad that's sorted!

We cross-posted again.
headache of having to partake in the politics of dealing with you.

Maybe you should have messaged me first, before it had been discussed on the forum for an hour?
If Rik hadn't said anything i would have come on here to find my thread moved and unlocked, with no explanation why.

You seem to be making a lot of nasty little assumptions about me on here today...what's wrong? Jersey shrunk in the wash? Hat elastic snapped?

Anyway...I'm glad we were able to sort it without any nastiness.

The disclaimer in the Torm thread was not about preventing discussion, it was about respecting the fact that it related to a person in shock and unsure of what to do, and to not freak them out or side track things but to offer help. This doesn't differ from accident threads where we all ask that people keep opinion elsewhere out of respect for the family who are in shock. In both cases people are free to have an open debate anywhere else (new threads, other existing threads, etc)... it's may not be a tasteful debate or one without conflict and disagreement, but people are still free to say what they want elsewhere.

The Archie's thread is a confusion of both open discussion and sales. I freely acknowledge that you have a right to close the sales thread, but I disagree that you have the right to restrict or limit the discussion or that a disclaimer should be added to constrain it. People can say what they want. The problem being that as it's one and the same thread, your ability to close the sales thread closes the discussion too. And more notably, as a trader that sits uncomfortably with me. People should be able to say what they want within reasonable limitations (i.e. the legal stuff about no hate, and the forum rules about no spam, etc).

If you're not happy with the thread being moved without disclaimer, then the best thing is to let you lock that thread and to have a new thread for the unconstrained discussion to exist.

There's a big difference between not making jokes in a thread about a rider being killed and not making jokes in a thread about a clothing manufacturer copying another clothing manufacturers products and then being threatened with a law suit...He was 'shocked' that that happened? really? Despite being warned by his former partner that it could?

The main reason the Archie's thread is so confused is because people have been allowed to post all kinds of shit in it rather than keep it on topic.
Me closing it is an attempt to keep it on topic during this current time of shock for myself and my family while i'm unsure what to do.
I think that's pretty much the same thing.

Cheers!

I'll start another thread for people in Bikes & Bits for Archie's Grobags and you can continue to control the one in Classifieds.

Perfect...and by start...that means from scratch, not moving my other thread.

Cheers...Now isn't it easier when these things are discussed with the person it affects BEFORE they're done and discussed elsewhere?

Ok...despite what you seem to think David, I'm a reasonable man...how about we reach a fair compromise?

I agree to have my Archie's Grobags thread moved into 'Bikes and Bits' as you would prefer...I relinquish any rights to control my own thread...and in return, you put one of those little disclaimers on the first post of the thread...like you did on the Torm one...the one where you ask everybody to keep their personal opinions to themselves and to keep the thread on topic...and if anybody fails to abide by those rules you ban them and move all the personal opinion and off topic comments to a new thread.

Does that sound fair to you?
After all...everybody on here is equal and deserves to be treated the same way as everybody else right?
I mean we do all have the same rights...right?

I hope that didn't sound like me going 'apeshit' or 'flipping out' ?

I'll leave you to mull it over.

With all due respect David, I don't want the thread in Bikes and Bits.

The thread is in classifieds because it is for selling things...If i choose to use my classified thread for making an announcement about something that I'm doing but don't wish it to become a discussion or descend into pointless and irrelevant posts then surely that is my right?

It was a different situation when you were preventing people having the ability to post their opinions on the Torm thread and you even went as far as banning James and threatening to ban General Lucifer. You then moved all the comments you didn't want in the thread and used them to start another.

As i don't have that God like power I should at least be allowed to close my own classified add to prevent discussion on a topic i feel doesn't need to be discussed.

This is not me flipping out as you put it, this is me expressing my right to have control over my own classified thread.
If you're now going to not only start threads in my name leaving me no way to remove my name from that thread and also move my own threads from the area of the forum that i want them to be in then this whole place is becoming pretty fucking ridiculous.

Seriously David, Me closing my classified thread should be my choice...I'm not abusing anything or anyone, I'm not being unreasonable.

If I'm no longer entitled to control my own classifieds or have my own comments and threads stay where i intend them to be then close the grobags thread for good and ban me because frankly I'm getting sick of you controlling what i say and where i say it.

If it's acceptable for a Torm thread to have posts that you don't like removed, why is it not acceptable for other people to control their own classified threads...classifieds is not meant to be a discussion board is it?

Holy fuck....Geekhouse stole the curved seat tube from him for Dales old bike too!

Holy shit, Brooklyn stole the diamond frame idea off that Lawson bloke from the 1800s.. they're so similar! OMG!

Yeah well he copied it from Standard!