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Still in my garage. Well worth considering either of these as I don’t own any rubbish. I have a graphite coloured rim to match the back wheel on the Allin.
Merry Christmas, stay safe, I hope this virus makes us all consider our frail nature and need of a saviour. He is the Lord Jesus Christ. The bible tells us where we came from, what to do and where we are going. The best selling and least read book!
Jesus is the reason for the season and the year we live in. If your feeling low or down ask Him in to your life and gain the best friend, who will never leave or forsake you. If your feeling great ask Him in to your life and thank him for the blessings you have in your life, much joy is to be had.
Believe me this is greater than the biggest haul of new old stock campag vintage or a barn full of Bugatti type 35 and Maserati historic racing cars. Or free mansion houses. Gifted to you. They will all fade away, what ever floats your boat or you could dream of.
There are loads of problems with the church and plenty of reasons why you, your parents or grand parents stopped going. We hopped around to avoid the splits and nutters.
I watch youtube sermons from Reigate Baptist Church, Banstead community Church and on Facebook Oasis Elim church in Napier Nz, all very good. While churches have been limited to online viewing. -
If anyone wants the De Ver frame 120£ takes it. The brake set etc will be up for grabs once the frame has sold.
Allin / Cliff Shrubb was built for a guy who worked at Allin Cycles, he knew Cliff built the better frames so he got Cliff to build his frame. It’s Columbus SL. I need to measure but sure it’s a 57 cm. I will let this go for £450. The group is either Athena or Chorus. Sup rims on campag hubs. I’ll have a better look at it by the weekend. -
@Skülly So this is a Cliff Shrubb built Allin, if you zoom in on the drop out join to fork or rear triangle you will note that the braze is not domed, rather cut back to the fork blade and rear Stays. This was how Cliff finished his frames. If the Butler is finished like this then Cliff built it. This one has a nice history. I may sell it.
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The stays are thicker than average road stays. Thus making it ideal for a strong sprinter back in the day.
I looked up a bit about De Ver and the Australian who opened the shop learnt to build frames and may have built some, however when I enquired about whether they had any decals left over, which they didn’t the guy said that Roberts had built most of the frames. Quite amazing how many frame builders were in the Croydon area back in the day. I have Allins, Cliff Shrubbs and this is kind of like having a Roberts and a de Ver. -
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This is on sprint rims, so tubular tyres, which are not in great condition. Nice mix of period quality parts. Campag Gran Sport brakes and hubs, sun tour gear set with nice aero gear levers. Cinelli bars and 1a stem. Ofmega chainset. Paint original but pretty tatty. Lovely details, lug work, bottom bracket is slotted and track rear stays, this is a rigid strong frame, assume Reynolds 531, no decal is shown. Having spoken to De Ver they confirmed that Roberts built the frames.
I may have some ma2 rims to go with it if you wanted to re spoke the hubs onto clinchers.£285.00 collect Reigate.
Would split up if enough interest. Prefer to sell complete.
The way forward is vintage.