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Hi everyone,
Thanks so much for all your efforts. Apparently we made a real difference in Strasbourg, and with all your letters. We have 323 signatures which leaves 46 to get. Because we are so close we have been granted an extension until 10 March.
The spreadsheet of responses on eildihcairns.com/campaign is being updated to show those signed and not signed. Slovenia (100%), Ireland , Lithuania & The UK achieved the best results with both Portugal and Romania achieving over 60%.
We had our worst result from Sweden...? Prob cos legislation is already tighter there than we are proposing.
Someone has sliced and diced the names so we can see who we target next.
Richard Howitt who promised that all Labour would sign did not sign himself.....the only labour MEP not to sign.
6 Conservatives were unsigned, arm twisting of Giles Chichester did not work.
Looking unsigned by grouping it looks as if there are sufficient European liberals and greens with a few others to get the numbers we need.
Website will be updated with this stuff soon.
Many many thanks to all.
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done.
Response claiming my BNP MEP will consider signing it...
Dear Danielle,
Many thanks for your email on this important subject, this is certainly something that Mr Brons will consider signing.
best wishes,Chris Beverley
British National PartyHas he considered it yet? I dont think hes on our list.
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Yes, please come along to Hyde Park Corner. Will have TV crews and reporters. Lets make some noise. Its a lot easier than going to Strasbourg!
Thanks for picking this thread up again.
"...if it obtains the signatures of a majority of the European Parliament's 736 MEPs (all nationalities) then it will show that the parliament wants the EU's executive body, the Commission, to take action and to draft EU-wide legislation."
Correct, and there are only 72 UK MEPs. We are doing really well but we need to penetrate other countries now. Please can you circulate as far and wide as poss? And anyone got any EU journo connections? Or contacts with Tour de France so we could hit all those countries??
Ideas and proactive action for EU dissemination gratefully rec'd.
Eilidh's Big Sis. -
How will your cycle stuff get from manufacturer to shop? Or food to supermarket?
Argggh! I hate this (non) argument. It is not Sainsburys killing cyclists. The stats are clear. It is tipper trucks, skip lorries and cement mixers. ie construction vehicles, those designed for site and mud and stockpiles, not for narrow urban densly populated streets.
It is this unregulated and flybynight industry that is the problem. Not the retailers. I work in it too, speaking from the inside.
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Tea Bee
Good luck teaching your children. Please tell them that they can also get run over from behind by a truck, even when in front of it and on the right. Even when travelling on a straight road with no turn offs.
See Eilidh Cairns, Anthony in Reading, and Im sure much more.
How can you stop one coming up behind you ? Fix mirrors on bikes and leg it when one comes for you?
Ask you builder merchants to get signed up to FORS and speak to the CVEU for advice before Boris Johson shuts it down (March next year). Report immediately any dodgy looking lorries. Ask them to get their drivers to cycle for a mile down the road with a truck coming up behind them too.
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This is very depressing reading.
In Eildih's case at Notting Hill there was apparenty "no evidence of contact" either. Why would there be. A massive dirty rusty lorry travelling a 9mph hitting a human body or simply clipping the rear wheel. (See the stunt on ITV programme last thurs at 8pm. You can see how easily the bike is brought down by a tiny contact from behind by the lorry. It is pretty clear there would be no physical evidence of this.) Why is noone asking if they would expect there to be evidence of a contact? (Evidence being material left on the other vehicle or sign of impact).
The police investigation report is implying that Eilidh fell off too!?!?!
Simply because she was wearing fixies. Totally ignoring the fact of how long she had been riding it. It is pure speculation on behalf of the police. It is outrageous that these are classed as "accidental" and therefore inveitable and therefore unavoidable.
This is a complete discgrace. Maybe she did fall off but on the balance of probabilities is that she didnt. Just look at her experience.
They are taking the easy option.
Eilidh's inquest is 22 January. I sincerely hope we dont have the same verdict but I expect we may well have. This is why witnesses are so so important.
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Meanwhile, is anyone up for a quick demo at City Hall tomorrow morning (wednesday 14th) before the Mayor's Question Time discusses him cutting all the funding for the only police unit in the country with the skills to assess safety procedures of HGV operating companies. ?
Yes, a demo. Except Im in northumberland and its a bit late in the day.
Here is a question that will be asked tmrw:HGVs and safety
Question No: 2652 / 2009
Jenny Jones
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Just thought I'd point out that there's a mailing list set up at seemesaveme.com for the sort of statistical debate people have been having:
http://www.seemesaveme.com/wiki/index.php/Mailing_Lists
Join the Enforcement/Legal/Data list.
Of course, if you'd rather discuss these issues here, I'm not one to stop you, but it would be good to focus it in the work of the Action Group.
Please do join the SeeMeSaveMe group. This is a great discussion with loads of useful info. We need to capture it and use it.
Well said on this point below, totally agree. Kulveer Ranger and his special cycles for the poor wee girls cos they arent very confident... Eildih was hardcore, but careful, not at all reckless, and in front on the right!! Repeat - you are not safe on the right, nor in front.:
"But, more than anything else, the focus has to shift to i) the sheer volume of HGVs on urban thoroughfares, and ii) the lawless and reckless manner in which they're operated by drivers and their companies. These endless variants of the same article - what are the cyclists doing wrong? - only serve to reinforce the way (enforcement of) the law views operating motor vehicles as an inherently blameless activity."
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More on stats. I am not convinced that analysing killed is the way forward. The numbers are so low as to be statistically insignificant, plus the key witness is not able to give their own account.
I think a more fruitful approach would be to look at KSI. Much bigger numbers.
Definately, seriously injured, injured and near misses would be good. Someone doing current research on all cyclist injuries treated by HEMS and someone else sent an email about the same sort of stats they are looking at at another hospital (cant remember which).
Lets get it all on SeeMeSaveMe.
By the way, I just found an email back from Jonathan Mitchell, Adonis's Private Secretary, when I was asking for an IV with him. His closing comment expressed his sympathy especially as a cyclist but concluded:
"The recent spate of incidents involving HGVs has certainly altered my cycling behaviour."
Maybe Im being over-sensitive but it implies again that the cyclist can avoid these incidents by riding correctly.
Hi, did you guys meet up? Did the ride ever happen? Sorry, think I was off radar then.
Stuff on Radio4 You and Yours yesterday about punishing cyclists on the pavement, and sthg on R4 Womens Hr the day before about girls get killed because they hang back and are not as assertive. What Bllx. Im writing to them.
Your final list of deaths is really helpful. Ive spent ages getting that together to find youd already done it. We need a spreadsheet with more info for each incident, so we can see patterns, so when people publically make presumptions and ill-informed comments, we can respond.