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The_Seldom_Killer

Member since Jul 2008 • Last active Jun 2017

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    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/875736256­990326784

    Protesters storming the town hall.

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    Not quite unprecedented, council's dealt with similar levels of displacement during events like the 2012 floods.

    But it never really gets any easier. The council have already reported that 77 out of 120 households have been put up in West London hotels. Yes, some of those are high rise but the luxury of a variety of options are something that local authorities have when dealing with the sudden displacement of 300-400 people. Of the remaining 43 households, some of them will be staying with family or friends. There's a lot of criticism of family and friends "bearing the burden" of rehousing but it can be a preferred option. Being in the presence of someone who will be able to identify of someone isn't coping or suffering from post-trauma stress can be a good thing. Another reason for using hotels rather than apartments (as well as the lack of ready availability).

    The common practice in events like this is that firstly the MIRG will get a reception center open for displaced people to get into (300+ people necessarily means multiple centers). This gives the authority the opportunity to track as many people as possible right from the outset. They will then be moved to short-term accommodation such as a hotel and then on to long-term accommodation before permanent rehousing. This is designed to minimise the amount of traumatic and disruptive moves any person or family has to make.

    If anything, money isn't really a big issue, it's dealing with traumatised people that's slows progress through the stages. I've heard anecdotes of people refusing to leave reception centers because they fear losing touch with what's going on.

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    Written commitment from the council on immediate rehousing of all the victims of Grenfell Tower fire, within the borough!

    Complicated issue this one. Some residents may not want to be rehoused in the immediate area. The tower is going to be there for a long time and people may easily feel retraumatised by being in it's vicinity. Also, we're ony a few days in. Rehousing isn't a simple action and very much still in the temporary accomodation stage. Rushing into immediate rehousing can easily cause as many problems as it is attempting to resolve.

    Immediate release of funds to cover costs of welfare and all losses suffered by the victims.

    This is a bit of a meaningless request. Funds have already been immediately released for things like temporary accommodation and other welfare related needs. We know this and can see it happening. Losses are a whole other issue and without a permanent home for them, where would victims be putting their replacement stuff? This and a whole load of other issues need to be resolved as they come up. Hopefully RBKC, the insurers, underwriters, Central Government and everyone else involved will make a concerted effort to get through the necessary processed as efficiently and effectively as possible and advocate for the victims. However, again, this is one of those things that necessarily takes time.

    Commission investigation into the recent £10m refurbishment project of the same tower, and bring those who failed to install adequate health and safety measures and equipment at the building.

    Theresa May has already committed to a full public enquiry. Whether this takes the form of an Inquest or an Enquiry remains to be seen but this appears to have been taken out of the hands of RBKC.

    Release full list of victims of the tragedy so families can bereave their dead.

    Are you fucking kidding me. We have a protocol in place that families are contacted to notify them of the deaths before the names are released. We do that for a number or reasons, not least of all so that families don't find out because a horde of journalists are on the front door step and ringing them out of the blue. Also, there is no full list. RBKC honestly won't have a clue at this time of everyone who is and isn't dead. There's no way you can condone giving out bad information to potential grieving relatives.

    Commission investigation into all other similar buildings in the borough to identify fire, health and safety risks and put in place immediate control measures.

    Definitely should do this and also work with as may Borough's as possible.

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    The recently quoted occupancy of the building is around 500. Approximately 80 were reported admitted to hospital so I would imagine the loss of life to be no more than that. Obviously I don't know who's making these off the record estimates but without knowing the reasoning behind them, it's very difficult to assess their credibility.

    The big issue with a complex metropolitan area like London is that it is very easy for people to disperse quickly to stay with friends and family without notifying local services. It's an issue that response teams from local authorities regularly face. It'll be at least a few more days before current lists can be collated and assessed and maybe a week before the full scale of the tragedy is properly understood.

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    The other option is to call an election when they think they have sufficient support to gain an outright majority. This is what Macmillian did during his leadership and went from a minority to a 3 seat majority.

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    I though he was called Paul Nutstrong?

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    I wish I could be a fly on the wall in Buckingham Palace today. I bet May gets pretty short shrift.

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    Yep, the LD candidate is going to be checking people's FB feeds very closely to see who didn't get to the polling booth and shitting on their carpet.

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    Quite a lot of very close votes. The next election may not be about policies but about who can rush around their constituency and craven beg for support. That's going to be an utter shitshow.

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