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andyfallsoff

Member since Nov 2007 • Last active Jan 2020

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    Yep. And all of the people who now talk about it used to say "well of course we don't actually want to leave, that would be mad".

    They ran a competition for Eurosceptics to propose how to leave and essentially concluded no idea was worth it. And yet here we are

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    Yup. Pissed off both sides. A masterclass in messing it up

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    Labour lost 11% of votes to Tories and 9% to lib Dems. I'd hold your horses before concluding that being pro brexit would have worked better, though

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    Yes, then.

    So of people who voted for corbyn before, half now left due to brexit stance, 25% because they thought he was crap now (but didn't / got over that last time).

    Also presumably there were other labour switchers (to LD, abstaining or others) which may have been for different reasons.

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    Presumably "labour voters" there means labour 2017 voters?

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    You pick your priorities, you acknowledge that big changes need to be done slowly and you say that you'll do X to start with, evaluate and aim to do Y, Z down the line and depending on how the other stuff goes.

    It's not hard - its just about an acknowledgement that mostly politics is about the direction of travel, not jumping straight to the destination. And all the while you're out of power, the direction of travel is moving against you so you need to go further just to get back to where you were

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    The amount of times I've seen "fuck off and join the SWP" Vs "fuck off and join the Tories", though...

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    Obviously it can't be proven that a more centrist position would do better, but the evidence from the past 40 years is that the only time a Labour government has been in power is as a result of adopting a more centrist position. Add to that the criticism of Corbyn, being a reason cited why lots of people abandoned labour at the last election, a lot of which was due to a perception that his policies were "too left", and (rightly or wrongly) it seems far more likely that a candidate who can bridge the divide and catch floating voters (centrist by definition) will do better than a candidate who will go further left, and accordingly lose the votes of people whose views are centrist.

    Look at Boris now - although in some ways he is quite right wing, he's also grabbed votes from all over the country by promising spending increases...

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    Whereas ignoring the reality and resigning yourself to 15 years out of power is homeopathy to treat cancer.

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    Oh please let that be wrong....

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