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user104752

Member since Nov 2019 • Last active Dec 2019
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    Does "after dark" mean from 4pm onward? Or are the muggings actually later, like 6/7/8/9pm?

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    The driver pulled out. Sorry I wasn’t very clear.

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    The best advice imo is to ride on the roads with the fewest cars and ones where overtaking is possible. No I don’t ride in the door zone but that leaves you vulnerable to tailgating and being close passed. No I don’t go on the left side of turning lorries obviously. The last near miss I had was on the last time I used the A10, further South than this discussion (in Haggerston), due to a driver parked in the bus lane- I changed lanes- pulling out of it without looking. Anyway, what is the point of asking me these questions? The roads are really not safe. If children cannot ride on them, then they are far from good enough imo. As I keep repeating myself, those still using the towpath agree with this since they are willing to cycle in what feels like a dodgy place to avoid using the roads. On the plus side with Hackney, the proposed Lea Bridge road link up with Waltham Forest should reduce the need to use the Hackney marshes so that’s one thing to support. The consultation for the Lea Bridge roundabout and road is happening now.

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    I have had cycle training. Telling someone to do that is just condescension. The majority of collisions involving cyclists is not their fault. Stop pretending your actions can prevent being hit: they can only go so far. The implication is those who got injured are to blame.

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    How does it revolve around me? I am stating facts here that the roads are also dangerous. 3 serious injuries on the A10 last year. More on other routes. This is not hijacking or spewing anything online. Telling people to simply not use the only car free route in the area is not any sort of solution, and clearly people are still ignoring it since they continue to cycle on it, understandably. The towpath is not even good for cycling. The actual suggestions involve getting the Council to act 1) on the crime itself since people who live there have to use it and 2) to provide actual alternatives. I have yet to receive a reply on what the supposed current ones are. And anyway, the fewer people that use it, the more dangerous it is for those that do because the lack of people is what makes the muggers act in the first place.

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    You are downplaying the dangers of the roads just the same. You’re belittling the experience of having a serious injury on the road. I don’t even use the canal after dark. I use an extremely convoluted backstreet alternative because the A10 is not safe either (including some parts of the pavement on the A10 South of where CS1 ends when travelling South). This in my opinion is a crap alternative and the only reason I do is so I don’t have to spend money on the train.

    What measured thing are you saying? As I said, “don’t ride there” is useless advice. Why is it that after so many muggings people are still using the Canal?

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    A sting with whistles, radios, about 10 guys and a willingness to really hurt someone is the only way that area is ever going to get sorted.
    It flares up every few years and the Police can't/won't do anything about it.
    Take the roads after dark, there are plenty of safe alternatives (that suck in comparison tbf).
    Such a shame.

    Please tell me these safe alternatives.

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    I'm not encouraging anything. I am saying it's not as simple as "avoid this." Do you think anyone aside those that live on the boats would use these routes if there were good alternatives? Did you even look at the map? At least three serious injuries I saw on the A10 last year on the bit parallel to the towpath. Hackney council are consulting on closing rat running routes on parts of the CS1, in part because of the increase in traffic and the concomitant increase in collisions.

    All I am saying is that you have to weigh the options. It may be safer to use the road, but then you increase your risk of injury from motor vehicles. Or it may not be. And please don't tell me that "they are perfectly safe, I have used them" because you are then inadvertently saying the people who have been injured on these routes were doing something wrong. They most likely weren't. And it doesn't sound like the people who have been mugged have been injured usually. Getting hit by a car risks that and getting the bike destroyed anyway.

    At the end of the day the towpath is not a suitable route anyway because it's narrow, badly surfaced, etc, and Hackney and Haringey really need to provide safe infrastructure on the A10.

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    https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/safety-and-­security/road-safety/london-collision-ma­p You can see here if you narrow down to pedal cycles that there were quite a few collisions on these alternative roads. Imo it’s not clear that avoiding the towpath is safer: you have to weigh the options. Thanks Hackney and Haringey councils for not providing safe cycling infra.

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    I wasn’t replying to him specifically just the general sentiment. The towpath is pretty crap for cycling in general. People use it only due to the lack of cars.

    There’s no real safe alternative. The other North South routes are the A10 and CS1- both dangerous.

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